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why are you confuse? my answer is yes. Under Statehood public education would be control by the local counties unless Puerto Ricans are dumb enough of continuing an outdated colony centralized education system.
It will be up to the residents of Puerto Rico and the counties.
why are you confuse? my answer is yes. Under Statehood public education would be control by the local counties unless Puerto Ricans are dumb enough of continuing an outdated colony centralized education system.
It will be up to the residents of Puerto Rico and the counties.
I don't mean that, I mean, will the "bilingual generation" program that fortuño proposed happen? Assuming it stays a commonwealth. And what are the odds statehood will happen?
the bilingual system in the public school system in P.R. will NEVER happen under ELA. The system is too politicized and too centralized for any reforms.
They have it in the good private schools in P.R. but it will never happen in the public system under ELA. Anti-statehooders in the government and the teachers union will never support it or fund it, it will be DOA. In their minds any bilingual education will be a threat for their status quo of staying ELA and the teachers union don't want outside teachers to come in and teach english as a 1st language because they don't want to lose control of the public funds and the monopoly they have in the island.
Why do think the public school system in Puerto Rico is so crappy.....people have to send their kids to private schools for a decent education if they have the money, the rest have to suffer in a mediocre system.
the bilingual system in the public school system in P.R. will NEVER happen under ELA. The system is too politicized and too centralized for any reforms.
They have it in the good private schools in P.R. but it will never happen in the public system under ELA. Anti-statehooders in the government and the teachers union will never support it or fund it, it will be DOA. In their minds any bilingual education will be a threat for their status quo of staying ELA and the teachers union don't want outside teachers to come in and teach english as a 1st language because they don't want to lose control of the public funds and the monopoly they have in the island.
Why do think the public school system in Puerto Rico is so crappy.....people have to send their kids to private schools for a decent education if they have the money, the rest have to suffer in a mediocre system.
I heard that all teachers who aren't good with english are learning it, and fortuño is authorizing schoolwork in english for math, and science. But that was from a year ago. And we have a new administration now. And agp doesn't want to expand the pilot program. And their was no recent news on it. So is it pretty much dead? Will it just be stalled at the schools it's at now?
English is a hot potato, but it doesn't have to be, Because its been politicized. English is seen by some as the beginning of language assimilation, and others as a necessity in a globalized world.
Pitiyankis, ( rabid statehooders ) want a complete eradication of Spanish, but they won't admit to it. Pitiyankis, at present speak only English at home despite having an accent you could cut with a scissor and can't be understood by their fellow Americans. Even the smoke screen of bilingual education is not to maintain two languages but to eliminate Spanish in the long run, as was done in New York. The end product of bilingual education there was to use Spanish to introduce English to the immigrants, thus making them monolingual English speakers. Sounds ludicrous but I went through the bilingual wars in NY and finally bilingualism became a vehicle to adopt English only.
The fact is that Puerto Ricans speak more English than Americans speak any other language, and looking at it closely , we are as bilingual as any other Latino country in Europe or Latin America. Bilingualism is basically for the educated classes and the university students in most places in the world.
However the bottom line is that statehooders KNOW that we have to be PERCIEVIED as English speaking when discussions begin in Congress. We really have to dupe the Hill Billy Congressional dudes into believing that we are sincere in adopting English 100%, but good luck with that one.
Only soberanistas YANKIFOBICOS use the term pitiyankis to put down their fellow Puerto Ricans who are for statehood. It wasn't the statehooders that took out the quality english education from the public schools in P.R. and replaced it with the mediocre system they have now that have dumb down Puerto Ricans in the island. Is not the statehooders that politicized every attempt to reform the mediocre public school system and the mediocre english education brought to us by Munoz and the Populares that Clip always defend and makes excuses for.....LOL
The only ones who can get a proper english education in the island are the upper class that can send their kids to the finest private schools in San Juan or go to the states,you know where the hypocrites Populares and Indpendentistas elites send their kids. Like Clip, they speak proper english but don't want the majority in the island to have the same opportunities because its a conflict with their ideology and yankifobia.
The only way to keep the status quo of the ELA is to dumb down Puerto Ricans and the PPD has done a fine job.
By they way, in the United States there many accents when the english language is spoken regardless of race due to geography, cultures, traditions, Immigration and social classes. I have been to many states and different social classes and they speak with multiple accents. I don't know what does that has to do with the topic of statehood but Clip really throws the racism card every chance he gets... I have never heard a fellow Puerto Rican used the white supremacy talking points so much against statehood and equal rights for Puerto Rico than him , LMAO!
But the "bilingual generation" proposed by Fortuño won't happen if the teachers union doesn't support it, and the governor (from a different party) isn't expanding the pilot program that is currently running, and, the education system is too centralized, right? It's not in the news anymore, I only heard that AGPito made the program not currently expand, and only stay at the number of schools it's currently at, but I'm not sure if that's true. And if it hasn't been in the news for a year, is the program all but dead?
English is a hot potato, but it doesn't have to be, Because its been politicized. English is seen by some as the beginning of language assimilation, and others as a necessity in a globalized world.
Pitiyankis, ( rabid statehooders ) want a complete eradication of Spanish, but they won't admit to it. Pitiyankis, at present speak only English at home despite having an accent you could cut with a scissor and can't be understood by their fellow Americans. Even the smoke screen of bilingual education is not to maintain two languages but to eliminate Spanish in the long run, as was done in New York. The end product of bilingual education there was to use Spanish to introduce English to the immigrants, thus making them monolingual English speakers. Sounds ludicrous but I went through the bilingual wars in NY and finally bilingualism became a vehicle to adopt English only.
The fact is that Puerto Ricans speak more English than Americans speak any other language, and looking at it closely , we are as bilingual as any other Latino country in Europe or Latin America. Bilingualism is basically for the educated classes and the university students in most places in the world.
However the bottom line is that statehooders KNOW that we have to be PERCIEVIED as English speaking when discussions begin in Congress. We really have to dupe the Hill Billy Congressional dudes into believing that we are sincere in adopting English 100%, but good luck with that one.
So Puerto Rico will have to be perceived as english dominant?
"Amendments to bills in the U.S. House that included statehood as an option for the territory which would have purportedly required a State of Puerto Rico to conduct all business in English were handily defeated by a Republican-controlled House in 1998 and a Democratic-controlled House in 2010."
"The amendments were replaced by amendments stating that Federal language requirements in a State of Puerto Rico would be the same as those that apply to the other States and encouraging the teaching of English in Puerto Rico."
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