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Old 05-22-2011, 05:56 AM
 
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i've visited both many times but i was born and raised in colombia and lived with my gran til i was 6 then my mom came back and got me and i've been living in new york ever since but me and mom went back and forth to fajardo during summers and i'd get to visit my gran sometimes too but only when my mom had the money to send me. i visit both every year now since i have my own money which cities have u visited in puerto rico?

Sn juan, Orocovis maybe a few others, I've only been there twice and it was a while ago. I want to go back to, but no time.

 
Old 05-22-2011, 11:18 AM
 
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Sn juan, Orocovis maybe a few others, I've only been there twice and it was a while ago. I want to go back to, but no time.
i've been to san juan, ponce, mayaguez and loiza.
 
Old 05-22-2011, 06:41 PM
 
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i've been to san juan, ponce, mayaguez and loiza.

You've been all over the island.
 
Old 05-24-2011, 11:58 PM
 
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You've been all over the island.
i guess i have lol
 
Old 05-29-2011, 10:08 AM
 
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Im not a expert on PR but I have been there a few times [1 year at the longest]. From what I have seen, the vast majority of Puerto Ricans are heavily mixed race and look like a Black-White mix [favoring the white side but have obvious black and white heritage]. But there is a White minority in Puerto Rico and a Black minority who are both mostly not mixed, that is where claims of racism in PR tend to be spotted. The Mulatto population seems to not suffer extremes in prejudice.

For one, most of the more prestigious jobs [ie-better paying and safer work] tend to be held by "White" Puerto Ricans, in San Juan it is very noticable. Tourist wise from the areas I visited almost all of the guides were White - very White [blonde hair, blue eyes] Puerto Ricans. They get heavy tips from the tourists and overall they make a very good living considering Puerto Rico is cheap to live at compared to the mainland US. Out of atleast one hundred Puerto Ricans employed in the Tourist "industry" I did not see one person who was a black Puerto Rican [besides a garbage collector], though there were a few mixed Ricans present. For work such as that that pays well in PR, seeing zero blacks was a surprise [black people overall seem to outnumber white PRs].

In addition to the Tourism industry, Lawyers tend to be White, Doctors [the "good" ones] and of course the upper class elected leadership of Puerto Rico are White.

I am sure racism goes much deeper than that in Puerto Rico, but you have to figure that for tourists, Puerto Rico wants to present a certain face to foreigners of who the Puerto Ricans are. And the lack of Black faces shows that Black people is not one of the faces PR identifies with, its Spanish [White] that Puerto Rico wants to present as who they are.

Also, look at the Puerto Rican census. Taking that at face value we are led to believe that PR is 80% White. Its not even close to that, Puerto rico is not a White majority island, its a mixed race island with heavy black ancestry. That shows that most Ricans would rather claim to be white than claim to be black or mixed race - which implies that there is a social stigma against African ancestry there.


But on another note and one which I found interesting while there, if you ask most of the "white" Puerto Ricans if they are white...The common reply was "Im not White. Im Spanish". Is that pure ignorance or what ?
 
Old 05-30-2011, 05:49 PM
 
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Im not a expert on PR but I have been there a few times [1 year at the longest]. From what I have seen, the vast majority of Puerto Ricans are heavily mixed race and look like a Black-White mix [favoring the white side but have obvious black and white heritage]. But there is a White minority in Puerto Rico and a Black minority who are both mostly not mixed, that is where claims of racism in PR tend to be spotted. The Mulatto population seems to not suffer extremes in prejudice.

For one, most of the more prestigious jobs [ie-better paying and safer work] tend to be held by "White" Puerto Ricans, in San Juan it is very noticable. Tourist wise from the areas I visited almost all of the guides were White - very White [blonde hair, blue eyes] Puerto Ricans. They get heavy tips from the tourists and overall they make a very good living considering Puerto Rico is cheap to live at compared to the mainland US. Out of atleast one hundred Puerto Ricans employed in the Tourist "industry" I did not see one person who was a black Puerto Rican [besides a garbage collector], though there were a few mixed Ricans present. For work such as that that pays well in PR, seeing zero blacks was a surprise [black people overall seem to outnumber white PRs].

In addition to the Tourism industry, Lawyers tend to be White, Doctors [the "good" ones] and of course the upper class elected leadership of Puerto Rico are White.

I am sure racism goes much deeper than that in Puerto Rico, but you have to figure that for tourists, Puerto Rico wants to present a certain face to foreigners of who the Puerto Ricans are. And the lack of Black faces shows that Black people is not one of the faces PR identifies with, its Spanish [White] that Puerto Rico wants to present as who they are.

Also, look at the Puerto Rican census. Taking that at face value we are led to believe that PR is 80% White. Its not even close to that, Puerto rico is not a White majority island, its a mixed race island with heavy black ancestry. That shows that most Ricans would rather claim to be white than claim to be black or mixed race - which implies that there is a social stigma against African ancestry there.


But on another note and one which I found interesting while there, if you ask most of the "white" Puerto Ricans if they are white...The common reply was "Im not White. Im Spanish". Is that pure ignorance or what ?
yeah, your pretty spot on. thanks for your input
 
Old 05-30-2011, 05:57 PM
 
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Im not a expert on PR but I have been there a few times [1 year at the longest]. From what I have seen, the vast majority of Puerto Ricans are heavily mixed race and look like a Black-White mix [favoring the white side but have obvious black and white heritage]. But there is a White minority in Puerto Rico and a Black minority who are both mostly not mixed, that is where claims of racism in PR tend to be spotted. The Mulatto population seems to not suffer extremes in prejudice.

For one, most of the more prestigious jobs [ie-better paying and safer work] tend to be held by "White" Puerto Ricans, in San Juan it is very noticable. Tourist wise from the areas I visited almost all of the guides were White - very White [blonde hair, blue eyes] Puerto Ricans. They get heavy tips from the tourists and overall they make a very good living considering Puerto Rico is cheap to live at compared to the mainland US. Out of atleast one hundred Puerto Ricans employed in the Tourist "industry" I did not see one person who was a black Puerto Rican [besides a garbage collector], though there were a few mixed Ricans present. For work such as that that pays well in PR, seeing zero blacks was a surprise [black people overall seem to outnumber white PRs].

In addition to the Tourism industry, Lawyers tend to be White, Doctors [the "good" ones] and of course the upper class elected leadership of Puerto Rico are White.

I am sure racism goes much deeper than that in Puerto Rico, but you have to figure that for tourists, Puerto Rico wants to present a certain face to foreigners of who the Puerto Ricans are. And the lack of Black faces shows that Black people is not one of the faces PR identifies with, its Spanish [White] that Puerto Rico wants to present as who they are.

Also, look at the Puerto Rican census. Taking that at face value we are led to believe that PR is 80% White. Its not even close to that, Puerto rico is not a White majority island, its a mixed race island with heavy black ancestry. That shows that most Ricans would rather claim to be white than claim to be black or mixed race - which implies that there is a social stigma against African ancestry there.


But on another note and one which I found interesting while there, if you ask most of the "white" Puerto Ricans if they are white...The common reply was "Im not White. Im Spanish". Is that pure ignorance or what ?

The mix of Pr is much more than just white and black, theres a substantial Amerindian component there too, almost equaling african ancestry.
Pr is a mostly tri racial island.

History Shaped the Geographic Distribution of Genomic Admixture in Puerto Rico
 
Old 06-02-2011, 04:51 PM
 
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Im not a expert on PR but I have been there a few times [1 year at the longest]. From what I have seen, the vast majority of Puerto Ricans are heavily mixed race and look like a Black-White mix [favoring the white side but have obvious black and white heritage]. But there is a White minority in Puerto Rico and a Black minority who are both mostly not mixed, that is where claims of racism in PR tend to be spotted. The Mulatto population seems to not suffer extremes in prejudice.

For one, most of the more prestigious jobs [ie-better paying and safer work] tend to be held by "White" Puerto Ricans, in San Juan it is very noticable. Tourist wise from the areas I visited almost all of the guides were White - very White [blonde hair, blue eyes] Puerto Ricans. They get heavy tips from the tourists and overall they make a very good living considering Puerto Rico is cheap to live at compared to the mainland US. Out of atleast one hundred Puerto Ricans employed in the Tourist "industry" I did not see one person who was a black Puerto Rican [besides a garbage collector], though there were a few mixed Ricans present. For work such as that that pays well in PR, seeing zero blacks was a surprise [black people overall seem to outnumber white PRs].

In addition to the Tourism industry, Lawyers tend to be White, Doctors [the "good" ones] and of course the upper class elected leadership of Puerto Rico are White.

I am sure racism goes much deeper than that in Puerto Rico, but you have to figure that for tourists, Puerto Rico wants to present a certain face to foreigners of who the Puerto Ricans are. And the lack of Black faces shows that Black people is not one of the faces PR identifies with, its Spanish [White] that Puerto Rico wants to present as who they are.

Also, look at the Puerto Rican census. Taking that at face value we are led to believe that PR is 80% White. Its not even close to that, Puerto rico is not a White majority island, its a mixed race island with heavy black ancestry. That shows that most Ricans would rather claim to be white than claim to be black or mixed race - which implies that there is a social stigma against African ancestry there.


But on another note and one which I found interesting while there, if you ask most of the "white" Puerto Ricans if they are white...The common reply was "Im not White. Im Spanish". Is that pure ignorance or what ?
I am from Spain, and the "white americans" think that spanish people is not white. That's pure ignorance.
 
Old 06-04-2011, 10:16 AM
 
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