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That's funny, because the news articles in Spanish say that he was caught by the US coast guard off the coast of Puerto Rico, and that he left PR after living there for 6 months as an illegal. He learned very quickly how bad the economic crisis is in PR. No mention about race and I don't think the guy is even in the DR yet, so I'm wondering what interview are you referring to.
On the other hand, PR has been losing a lot of Puerto Ricans in recent years due to the crisis. The population has actually begun to decline, as the most recent census clearly showed, but the flow of illegal Dominicans hasn't stopped and now even Haitians are illegally migrating in large numbers to PR. Add to that that most Puerto Ricans leaving the island are the young while PR's native population is progressively getting older, while the average illegal immigrant is in his 20's and on average are having more kids than the general PR population. It doesn't takes a rocket scientist to know that PR is in the beginning stages of massive demographic changes, generally becoming more like the DR. This will speed up once the aging native PR population begins to die off from old age. I say anyone in their 20's or 30's right now will notice the demographic shift with their very own eyes unless something happens that stops the massive emigration of Puerto Ricans.
Many of my Puerto Rican friends, some of which live on the island, already say that the older members of their families say that the younger generation of Puerto Ricans is slightly darker (trigueno is the word they use) and that overall in PR there are more people of color now than there used to be when they were young.
The end result of this demographic shift will either be a waining of anti-Dominican feelings or simply an increase in those feelings. I guess time will tell.
1) He went from Puerto Rico where the min. wage is $7.25 an hour to 39 cents an hour in R.D........the price of gasoline in Puerto Rico is under $3.50 gallon and in R.D. is over $7.00 a gallon....$1 U.S. DOLLAR= 44.71 Dominican pesos...either the guy is not very good in economics 101 or they are looking for him and he left......and you say that its Puerto Rico under a "crisis"???? LMAO!!!
2) Are race relations that bad for illegals in P.R.? they are allow to use social services and send their kids to public schools at taxpayers expense and the Governor of Puerto Rico wants to issue them driver's license (I'm guessing for votes just like the Democrats in the U.S.) . I say that's way better than what Dominicans treat the Haitians who enter their country illegally.
3) The Mexicans are the same, they complain about how tough the U.S. laws are on immigration (NOT REALLY) and that the Americans discriminates but ignore the fact that Mexico's immigration laws are way tougher on any poor Latino who enters Mexico illegally from Guatemala and Central America. If you are not educated and don't have money to sustain yourself you are NOT welcome. You get beaten, arrested and thrown out. Mexico's jails make the U.S. jails look like Motel 6 and Quintas Hotels.
4) The reason many Puerto Ricans leave Puerto Rico for better opportunities in the states its because its GLOBAL ECONOMY and they are using their birth given rights as a U.S. Citizens in the Nation.......the island still has under 4 million people which is still over-populated......it has nothing to do with the so call "crisis".
if Puerto Rico is under a "crisis"....what are R.D., Haiti and Cuba are in paradises?
R.D.= min. Wage 39 cents an hour
Cuba=min Wage 10 cents an hour ($9 per month)
Haiti= min Wage 20 cents an hour
Puerto Rico treats Illegals from D.R. well. They are allow to use social services and send their kids to public schools. The governor of P.R. wants to give them driver's license (which is going overboard but he is Democrat and they do silly things like this)
When Dominicans treat Haitians who enter their country illegal like that you let me know.
Other than the drivers license issue, the DR does much more for the illegal Haitians than PR does for Dominicans or even than the US does for any immigrant.
Dominicans do allow illegal Haitians in their hospitals (some 20% of the budget destined for hospitals is spent on Haitians and in many hospitals there are so many Haitians that when Dominicans go for medical attetion they are turned away because no beds are available and usually there is a shortage of medicine for the very same reason.) Thousands of pregnant Haitian women cross the border to give birth in Dominican hospitals because in Haiti hospitals hardly exist and most of the ones that exist can hardly be considered hospitals. They do that because they know that in the DR doctors are obligated by law to treat any Haitian that asks for medical help for free. In the main hospitals of the country Haitian births outnumbers Dominicans, and because most Haitian women don't get medical attention while pregnant in Haiti, when they arrive at Dominican hospitals to give birth many have severe complications, elevating the DR's infant mortality and maternal mortality rates to some of the highest in the hemisphere.
Haitian children are accepted in Dominican public schools without even asking them or their parents for basic identity documentation. This has exacerbated the shortage in classrooms and now its common for upwards of 70 snd 80 kids per teacher. In many areas the number of students is so great that the teachers actually teach under a tree with the kids subject to the elements. The schools are not equipped to handle the amount of kids that have now flooded them, so many of the kids have to do their body necessities outside in the open.
These two details arose once the international community forced the DR to open its public hospitals and schools to illegal Haitians, because before anyone without documents was not allowed due to constraints of funds.
Dominican cities are full of illegal Haitian women carrying babies and begging for money at the traffic lights. Thousands of young illegal Haitian men are seen selling all sorts of things at major intersection. Dominican construction workers are basically out of their jobs because Haitians do the same work for less, the same is happening in the agricultural centers, and now even the tourism jobs are being taken over by Haitians, which is why at any given resort a tourist is much more likely to be attended by a Haitian than a Dominican.
And now the DR is in the middle of the only free regularization plan for the illegals in the history of humanity (not even the US does amnesties for free) and had it not been for the Haitian government refusing to collaborate (they are charging their own people hundreds of dollars just to get a birth certificate, which is neceassary to be a able to regularize their status, and then the Haitian government makes them wait upwards of 3 months to hand them their papers), most of the Haitians would had regularized their status.
To all of this must be added all the other things they have done for the Haitians after the earthquake such as the largest donation of blood the Dominican Red Cross received in its history when they asked the Dominican people to donate in order to help the Haitians after the earthquake, the hundreds of lactating Dominican women that allowed hungry Haitian babies to be put on their breasts so they could be fed with maternal milk, the allowance that still exist of all Haitian bound merchandise to arrive through Dominican ports and the taken to Haiti by land with the DR government paying for everything. They literally opened their hospitals to all Haitians that needed medical care, the Dominican president has been very active in going around the world asking leaders to not forget about Haiti, the list is very long.
As an act of solidarity after the earthquake, the DR built a university in Haiti fully paid by Dominican tax payers because most of Haiti's universities were affected by the earthquake; and Haitian university students are by law admitted in Dominican university paying the subsidized national tuition as if they were Dominicans instead of the full price charged to foreign students, including hundreds of Puerto Ricans.
This is the university built by the DR as a gift to Haiti after the earthquake, its probably the most modern education complex on that part of the island. I have never heard of PR doing something similar to Dominicans or in the DR.
Its needless to say that if Puerto Rico would had been forced to do a fraction of the things the DR does, there would had probably been social unrest by Puerto Ricans not happy that when they go to the hospitals they pay with their taxes often there are no beds for them or medicine, that their kids are taught in severely overcrowded public schools among many other things.
On top of that, they have to suffer a constant discrediting campaign in the international media because people from outside of the DR refuse to notice everything that the DR is actually doing for the Haitians.
PR does very little for Dominicans by comparison, not to mention that you can travel through most places in PR and not see a single Dominican anywhere. The irony is that PR has more resources capable of doing for Dominicans everything the DR is doing for the Haitians, but that's not the case.
By simply visiting the Punta Cana area the Haitian immigration issue is apparent to any tourist. In that area live approximately 70 thousand people, of whom an estimated 50 thousands are illegal Haitian immigrants. That's why they dominate the streets wherever there are many pedestrians.
Hospitals in Puerto Rico are not overrun by illegal Dominicans as hospitals in DR are with illegal Haitians. Please show how typical PR hospitals are overrun by illegals as DR hospitals are.
Please show PR streets flooded with illegal Dominicans as are Dominican streets with the Haitians.
in Santo Domingo:
In Santiago:
Please, show the tourist areas of PR flooded with illegal Dominicans as the Punta Cana (main tourist area of DR) is flooded with illegal Haitians.
There is no comparison and PR is richer than DR, PR can better handle an influx as the DR is suffering yet PR's illegal immigrant problem pales in comparison. On top of that, PR isn't under attack by an international defamation campaign full of lies and half truths to make the Dominicans seem as the eternal bad guys in all this drama.
20 years ago it was rare to see one Haitian in most places in DR, now its rare to find place without hundreds of them.
Other than the drivers license issue, the DR does much more for the illegal Haitians than PR does for Dominicans or even than the US does for any immigrant.
Dominicans do allow illegal Haitians in their hospitals (some 20% of the budget destined for hospitals is spent on Haitians and in many hospitals there are so many Haitians that when Dominicans go for medical attetion they are turned away because no beds are available and usually there is a shortage of medicine for the very same reason.) Thousands of pregnant Haitian women cross the border to give birth in Dominican hospitals because in Haiti hospitals hardly exist and most of the ones that exist can hardly be considered hospitals. They do that because they know that in the DR doctors are obligated by law to treat any Haitian that asks for medical help for free. In the main hospitals of the country Haitian births outnumbers Dominicans, and because most Haitian women don't get medical attention while pregnant in Haiti, when they arrive at Dominican hospitals to give birth many have severe complications, elevating the DR's infant mortality and maternal mortality rates to some of the highest in the hemisphere.
Haitian children are accepted in Dominican public schools without even asking them or their parents for basic identity documentation. This has exacerbated the shortage in classrooms and now its common for upwards of 70 snd 80 kids per teacher. In many areas the number of students is so great that the teachers actually teach under a tree with the kids subject to the elements. The schools are not equipped to handle the amount of kids that have now flooded them, so many of the kids have to do their body necessities outside in the open.
These two details arose once the international community forced the DR to open its public hospitals and schools to illegal Haitians, because before anyone without documents was not allowed due to constraints of funds.
Dominican cities are full of illegal Haitian women carrying babies and begging for money at the traffic lights. Thousands of young illegal Haitian men are seen selling all sorts of things at major intersection. Dominican construction workers are basically out of their jobs because Haitians do the same work for less, the same is happening in the agricultural centers, and now even the tourism jobs are being taken over by Haitians, which is why at any given resort a tourist is much more likely to be attended by a Haitian than a Dominican.
And now the DR is in the middle of the only free regularization plan for the illegals in the history of humanity (not even the US does amnesties for free) and had it not been for the Haitian government refusing to collaborate (they are charging their own people hundreds of dollars just to get a birth certificate, which is neceassary to be a able to regularize their status, and then the Haitian government makes them wait upwards of 3 months to hand them their papers), most of the Haitians would had regularized their status.
To all of this must be added all the other things they have done for the Haitians after the earthquake such as the largest donation of blood the Dominican Red Cross received in its history when they asked the Dominican people to donate in order to help the Haitians after the earthquake, the hundreds of lactating Dominican women that allowed hungry Haitian babies to be put on their breasts so they could be fed with maternal milk, the allowance that still exist of all Haitian bound merchandise to arrive through Dominican ports and the taken to Haiti by land with the DR government paying for everything. They literally opened their hospitals to all Haitians that needed medical care, the Dominican president has been very active in going around the world asking leaders to not forget about Haiti, the list is very long.
Its needless to say that if Puerto Rico would had been forced to do a fraction of the things the DR does, there would had probably been social unrest by Puerto Ricans not happy that when they go to the hospitals they pay with their taxes often there are no beds for them or medicine, that their kids are taught in severely overcrowded public schools among many other things.
On top of that, they have to suffer a constant discrediting campaign in the international media because people from outside of the DR refuse to notice everything that the DR is actually doing for the Haitians.
PR does very little for Dominicans by comparison, not to mention that you can trave through most places in PR and not see a single Dominican anywhere. The irony is that PR has more resources capable of doing for Dominicans everything the DR is doing for the Haitians, but that's not the case.
you really believe all that? if that's the case you will have millions of poor Haitians crossing over "FREELY" to the D.R. side for a better life and government handouts......the Dominican government doesn't have the budget for that and you know it.
you really believe all that? if that's the case you will have millions of poor Haitians crossing over "FREELY" to the D.R. side for a better life and government handouts......the Dominican government doesn't have the budget for that and you know it.
Unlike you, I've seen it in person. Anyone that has been in the DR for some time eventually sees it. Its not a question of belief.
The fact that the DR doesn't have the money for all of that is the reason Dominicans are not happy with the situation; especially that it doesn't matter what they do the international community only has an accusatory attitude towards them, completely ignoring everything they are doing for the Haitians to the detriment of the Dominicans themselves because Dominicans don't have the money to cover their own necessities, but less Haiti's.
In the first two months of this year Dominican border officials captured 40,000 Haitians that entered illegally. Some studies suggest that only 20% of all the people that illegally cross any given border iare actually caught. Do the math taking into consideration the remaining 10 months of this year, year after year. By comparison, less than 3,000 people heading to PR in yolas were captured last year by the US Coast Guard.
Like I said, PR's illegals problem pales in comparison to what is happening in the DR.
The situation at the Dominican-Haitian border (in the few areas with check points).
you really believe all that? if that's the case you will have millions of poor Haitians crossing over "FREELY" to the D.R. side for a better life and government handouts......the Dominican government doesn't have the budget for that and you know it.
I have lived in the Dominican Republic for almost 4 years now and his assesment is pretty accurate.
Antonio might be one of the more reliable resources regarding Hispaniola on this site. I believe him too.
If DR and PR shared a land border I could understand but the Haitian immigration issue in DR is much more of an issue. I'm almost positive the two borders with the worst immigration issues are DR-Haiti followed by US-Mex. Not even close of a comparison in regards to DR-PR.
Unless they're nearly a million Dominicans in PR with a potential additional 400,000 folks of Dominican descent in PR. In that case, then yes; very comparable. I honestly don't know the numbers for PR though.
Ya acting like puerto ricans dont be moving to dominican republic also. Bcus theres plenty or ricans in DR. And alot of people slept on Dominicans in New York and New Jerseyy back the days thats whyeres so many of them in
New york/New Jersey. Im cuban i live in Manhattan NY and theres so Many Dominicans in Upper Manhattan Its not even Funny Upper Manhattan Its nothing but Dominican when it comes to hispanic same with the Bronx and
Brooklyn and Parts of Queens. Washinton Heightd and west Harlem & Dyckman are Flooded with Dominicans Thats All in Manhattan. And as Of November 2014 its Showd That Dominicans Have Surpass Puerto Ricans In New York and Boston As The Largest Latino Groups. Rhode Island Dominicans Are The Largest Latino Group Also. Next Thing You Know New Jersey Going To Be Next Soon Bcus most Hispanics In New Jersey Are Dominicans and Puerto Ricans . New Jersey Is The Second Stop F theor USA D Afteromin New York Then Comes Massachusets After New Jersey Then Rhode Island. Even Though Philly & Pennsylvania even Have Large Dominican Population Also. The Puerto Rican Parade its not longer That Live in Nyc like it was couple years ago now Is The Dominican Parade You Be Having Dominicans From all Over The U.S Coming To The National Dominican Parades In New York and New Jersey every Summer . My Wife Dominicsn Btw and Kids Lol.
Ya acting like puerto ricans dont be moving to dominican republic also. Bcus theres plenty or ricans in DR. And alot of people slept on Dominicans in New York and New Jerseyy back the days thats whyeres so many of them in
New york/New Jersey. Im cuban i live in Manhattan NY and theres so Many Dominicans in Upper Manhattan Its not even Funny Upper Manhattan Its nothing but Dominican when it comes to hispanic same with the Bronx and
Brooklyn and Parts of Queens. Washinton Heightd and west Harlem & Dyckman are Flooded with Dominicans Thats All in Manhattan. And as Of November 2014 its Showd That Dominicans Have Surpass Puerto Ricans In New York and Boston As The Largest Latino Groups. Rhode Island Dominicans Are The Largest Latino Group Also. Next Thing You Know New Jersey Going To Be Next Soon Bcus most Hispanics In New Jersey Are Dominicans and Puerto Ricans . New Jersey Is The Second Stop F theor USA D Afteromin New York Then Comes Massachusets After New Jersey Then Rhode Island. Even Though Philly & Pennsylvania even Have Large Dominican Population Also. The Puerto Rican Parade its not longer That Live in Nyc like it was couple years ago now Is The Dominican Parade You Be Having Dominicans From all Over The U.S Coming To The National Dominican Parades In New York and New Jersey every Summer . My Wife Dominicsn Btw and Kids Lol.
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