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Old 07-26-2020, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Grønland
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That's not entirely true. Stuff that's made in the region tends to be dirt cheap. Take food as example. Sure, on most islands food is more expensive than on the continent because almost all of it is imported.
Ok, so what are you paying for gasoline, diesel and cooking gas? In gallons, not litres please.
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Old 07-26-2020, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Grønland
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Back to St Croix prices
https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-l...virgin-islands
Biggest expense is rental housing, followed by food and gasoline
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Old 07-27-2020, 11:31 AM
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Ok, so what are you paying for gasoline, diesel and cooking gas? In gallons, not litres please.
Those are imported. The country produces exactly zero drop of the stuff, like most islands of the Caribbean. It does have a refinery in Haina, near Santo Domingo, one of the few that exist in the Caribbean. While it used to treat the oil and convert it to gasoline for national consumption, today it covers a part of the total consumption as demand has gone up through the years. Unlike in the United States, gasoline isn't subsidized as much by the government. What exist is more similar to Europe in pricing, closer to US$6 for regular.

Prices may seem high to Americans because the USA produces some of its oil, much of the country sits on a continental shelf making the product trucked everywhere with the consequent cheaper transportation costs, and the government subsidy helps keep prices lower at the pump. Americans are also shocked when they see gasoline prices in Europe, where despite producing some oil, the governments subsidies are lacking compared to the USA. Europeans in fact would find Dominican gasoline prices cheaper than at home.

An even more extreme case was with Venezuelans. Ever since oil was discovered there in the XX Century, the government subsidy on gasoline was so great that it sold for cents on the dollar. With literally $2 or $3 a tank was filled. They put a price on gasoline to not make it seem free, but it was basically free since it was so cheap. Venezuelans got used to filling up the tank without even looking at the total price. That habit went abroad with them. It was common for Venezuelan tourists in various parts of Latin America to fill the tank without looking at the price. Then the sticker shock set in when they saw how much they owed. That's one mistake that is done once! lol

Diesel (known as gasoil in Dominican Spanish) is actually much cheaper than gasoline, mostly because the government subsidy on the product is greater compared to gasoline.

Cooking gas oil is also cheaper than gasoline because of government subsidies. Its one of only four countries in the Americas where forest cover is actually increasing and that is due in part to government policies encouraging cooking gas over the traditional wood cooking, which severely affected tree cover as they were indiscriminately cut to supply the demand. The government would even give the poorer people that couldn't afford one a gas stove to discourage tree cutting. It's more often sold in dispensing stations where customers fill their metal tanks and take them home and connect them to the gas stove. Most homes are simply not connected to a cooking gas oil grid because most areas, even in urban zones, don't have them; unlike in the United States. That's why there are people on motorcycles carrying the tanks around or trucks with a visible cargo of tanks. There are also cooking gas oil trucks that go to each home and fill the tanks as needed, similar to heating oil trucks in the northern and cooler parts of the southern United States where central heating is universal.

But that's oil. A very important part of modern life, yet overall the cost of living in the Dominican Republic for a US type middle class lifestyle is cheaper than in most of the Caribbean such as in St Croix. If a person would stick to mostly Dominican products as substitute for American products, or more accurately brands since the products are mostly the same, the overall cost of living for a US style middle class lifestyle is cheaper than in the continental United States. The fact that a person can have a cheaper cost of life while enjoying a slightly higher lifestyle in the Dominican Republic than in the USA is the reason many Americans choose to retire in Dominican soil instead of other areas of the Caribbean or the United States. Other parts of Latin America are even cheaper, because they don't have the usual bump in prices that islands have. On islands the imports arrive through ships or airplanes, the two most expensive transportation options unlike trucks.

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Old 07-27-2020, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Grønland
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Great for DR - now can you shed some light on the VI for the OP?
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Old 07-28-2020, 05:39 PM
 
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Well, now that area is about to get run over again
GOLDEN TRIANGLE WEATHER PAGE
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Old 08-03-2020, 01:16 PM
 
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That's not entirely true. Stuff that's made in the region tends to be dirt cheap. Take food as example. Sure, on most islands food is more expensive than on the continent because almost all of it is imported. But, in places like the Dominican Republic many foodstuff is cheap mainly because the country is self-sufficient in producing its own food. Granted that only two places in the Caribbean are self-sufficient in food production (the other one is Cuba), but it goes to show that the notion that everything is expensive in the Caribbean is not entirely true.

Having said that, the Dominican Republic is probably an exception to the region since it produces so much for its own consumption, which is not the case in most islands. From its own hand sanitizer brand (and production) to its own detergents, drinks, clothes, plastic and styrofoam utensils (in fact Diesco is a local founded company and based in Santo Domingo and is the Caribbean largest producer of those types of utensils and plates, it even supplies most Caribbean islands from its plant in SDQ), steel rods, many construction materials, etc. Usually, Caribbean islands tend to lack having a large local production of those things, even when there are imports of those same things (but different brands). Santo Domingo and Santiago probably has the largest concentration of factories for the national market than anywhere in the Caribbean (not counting production primarily for export mostly to the United States, which in that case the giants are Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic, the latter in its free trade zones known elsewhere in Latin America as "maquiladoras").
Cuba self sufficient in food! You're kidding right!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cuba-wi...onomic-crisis/


DR wages are at rock bottom which is a big reason why costs are low. The oligarchs control that country. For evidence look no further than who just became president.

There is a reason why Dominicans can be found everywhere in the Caribbean including the USVI.
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