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Old 11-12-2015, 07:02 PM
 
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My wife and I are thinking of retiring to St Croix, We cruise all the the time in the southern and eastern and love all the caribbean islands, STX appears to be a very nice place to live, we do not need a fancy life style, we like fresh fruits, coffee, wine and peaceful days along with the ocean. My only question is where should we look to live on the island? I will pay outright for my residence and will bring in approx 30K per year in retirement. Any thought would be nice, thank you!
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:59 PM
 
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Check crime rates first. This Virgin Islands article -- written in the USVI -- is 2 years old, but I don't think things are any better.

http://virginislandsdailynews.com/ne...hest-1.1434291

Cruise ships no longer stop in St. Croix due to the high crime rate. This article is from 2014:
http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2014/04...-in-the-world/
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Old 11-15-2015, 08:29 PM
 
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Lots of Violence in St. Croix right now. People are being murdered every day on that island. Check out VI Consortium and read the stories there.
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Old 07-08-2020, 12:55 AM
 
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Lots of Violence in St. Croix right now. People are being murdered every day on that island. Check out VI Consortium and read the stories there.
Is that still the case now in 2020?
Is it sections of the island?
Overall the entire island?
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Old 07-08-2020, 12:29 PM
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Most of it is tied to the drug business, namely people that are addicted and need to financially support their habit, but either don't make enough to support it all the time or don't have a job, constantly due to their addiction which impedes them from doing their work correctly. People that are poor and don't have drug addictions generally aren't thieves or even consider robbing others. If that was the case, then robbery should had been widespread in the Caribbean for centuries and yet, that was not the case. In fact, in many places there was a general safety level until very recent decades.

The rise in robberies is tide to the drug trade, not so much what is passing by to be sold in North America and Europe (the greatest consumer of drugs in the world, if they stop consuming that junk, the entire drug trade would collapse; in fact, most of the profits of the drug trade is created in and never leaves from North America and Europe). Rather the few drugs that is destine to be sold and consumed in the region is the culprit (and it's a few compared to the estimated amount of what passes through the region). The main producers are in South America (Colombia, Ecuador, etc; Venezuela has become a transshipment point but isn't a major producer). The Caribbean islands and the Central American isthmus are simply on the way of North America and Europe (though they reach Africa from the Caribbean first and from there it reaches Europe via Spain and Italy for the most part). Mexico actually borders North America and is no shocker that most of the drug related crime there is committed in northern states bordering the USA.

The US Virgin Islands is a smuggling place for drugs destine to the continental USA and the air connections to many of its east coast major cities is an incentive for smuggling. Also, the relative proximity to the continental USA makes them apt places for beginning private flights to The Bahamas where the "cargo" is dumped near the coast of certain islands and from there smuggled into the USA via fast boats that reach the deserted areas of the Atlantic coast of Florida. The private planes that went to The Bahamas from the USVI make a U-turn in the air and return to the USVI. The proximity to Puerto Rico makes it a place to smuggle the drugs from the USVI via fast boats, but the main attraction are the extensive connections from Puerto Rico to major cities across the USA. Puerto Rico itself continues to be the largest consumer of drugs in the Caribbean, but even there what is actually left for island consumption is small compared to what passes through to be consumed by the Americans in the continental USA.

The main consumers in the USA are not minorities of inner cities as often assumed (though the arrivals of the drugs is mostly done via those places), but rather suburbans living in safe, clean, and tranquil suburbs. That's the real source, the maintainers, and the producers of most of the drugs made in Latin America: suburban USA.

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Old 07-23-2020, 03:16 PM
 
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I just came across USVI too and was stunned at how cheap property prices are....

Was wondering why.
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Old 07-23-2020, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Redwood Shores, CA
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Check crime rates first. This Virgin Islands article -- written in the USVI -- is 2 years old, but I don't think things are any better.

http://virginislandsdailynews.com/ne...hest-1.1434291

Cruise ships no longer stop in St. Croix due to the high crime rate. This article is from 2014:
http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2014/04...-in-the-world/
Shocking to read the 2nd link (first one does not work). I had the impression that the Caribbeans are the most beautiful and peaceful and comfortable region in the world... Dream is shattered.

But I note that St Lucia is also on the danger list, but St Lucia is pretty expensive unlike USVI. A condo there cost 400K+ and a a beer is like 15 and meal 25. So close yet so different...
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Old 07-23-2020, 07:46 PM
 
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Cayman islands is not bad.
But it is increasing as the demographics change. Had a lot move from Jamaica over the years.

No different than what is happening in US cities and you see crime go way up..
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Old 07-25-2020, 03:40 PM
 
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Nothing is cheap in the Caribbean. Look where it is - all those islands, surrounded by all that water. Only Jones Act shipping can bring goods to the VI and PR. Exception is air freight which costs 3x normal. No cruise ships are operating anywhere in the world because of this epidemic. Panama, VI-PR and Belize are the major pipelines for drugs entering the USA.
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Old 07-26-2020, 06:22 AM
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Nothing is cheap in the Caribbean. Look where it is - all those islands, surrounded by all that water. Only Jones Act shipping can bring goods to the VI and PR. Exception is air freight which costs 3x normal. No cruise ships are operating anywhere in the world because of this epidemic. Panama, VI-PR and Belize are the major pipelines for drugs entering the USA.
That's not entirely true. Stuff that's made in the region tends to be dirt cheap. Take food as example. Sure, on most islands food is more expensive than on the continent because almost all of it is imported. But, in places like the Dominican Republic many foodstuff is cheap mainly because the country is self-sufficient in producing its own food. Granted that only two places in the Caribbean are self-sufficient in food production (the other one is Cuba), but it goes to show that the notion that everything is expensive in the Caribbean is not entirely true.

Having said that, the Dominican Republic is probably an exception to the region since it produces so much for its own consumption, which is not the case in most islands. From its own hand sanitizer brand (and production) to its own detergents, drinks, clothes, plastic and styrofoam utensils (in fact Diesco is a local founded company and based in Santo Domingo and is the Caribbean largest producer of those types of utensils and plates, it even supplies most Caribbean islands from its plant in SDQ), steel rods, many construction materials, etc. Usually, Caribbean islands tend to lack having a large local production of those things, even when there are imports of those same things (but different brands). Santo Domingo and Santiago probably has the largest concentration of factories for the national market than anywhere in the Caribbean (not counting production primarily for export mostly to the United States, which in that case the giants are Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic, the latter in its free trade zones known elsewhere in Latin America as "maquiladoras").

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