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View Poll Results: Is the federal response to PR equal to the response to any US state affected by hurricanes?
Yes 41 38.68%
No 65 61.32%
Voters: 106. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-27-2017, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Formerly NYC by week; ATL by weekend...now Rio bi annually and ATL bi annually
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PR of course should get FEMA funds and disaster aid. People spewed all kinds of rhetoric about us in New Orleans when Katrina hit. Its all bull****. Fact is the political climate in the US has allowed the ignorance once kept in the closet to come out to light.

 
Old 09-27-2017, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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This sounds a little like a trolling attempt or a baited question to me. Of course Puerto Rico is not getting the same response as a state would. It isn't a state. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the response. I'm just stating a fact. I personally think they should have joined the union a long time ago, but some of them don't want to and others think their current situation is the best of both worlds. Hopefully now they will join the union so that if something like this happens again they will get the aid they need.
No, this is not a trolling attempt or a "baited" question.

The US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, and Puerto Rico are not states but they are all US territories and their people are US citizens and deserve to be treated equally like US citizens residing in the 50 US states are treated.

Why is that such a hard concept for some of you to understand and more importantly, accept?
 
Old 09-27-2017, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Earth
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yes

trump probably thinks they're mexicans

I also feel cuba should be annexed
 
Old 09-27-2017, 08:14 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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yes

trump probably thinks they're mexicans

I also feel cuba should be annexed
It probably would have been once the Castro regime fell ... except Obama threw the Cuban Communist Party a lifeline and now they will stay in power forever.
 
Old 09-27-2017, 08:27 PM
 
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Puerto Ricans aren't being treated differently than other Americans and the US military has already proved to be invaluable in giving aid. The fact that Puerto Rico and the USVI are islands means that any supplies given to hurricane victims in those areas would present logistics issues since everything has to be flown in or shipped and considering the damage to existing facilities like airports and ports that alone poses huge problems unlike in Florida or Texas where supplies can be trucked in from other states. If a Category 5 hurricane were to hit Hawaii for instance they would be having the same problems.
 
Old 09-28-2017, 06:15 AM
 
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To respond to the OP, the answer is a resounding NO (to the poll question) and YES to the thread title. The Federal response is decidedly not equivalent. The great Orange thing has steadfastly refused to suspend the Jones Act to assist Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. However, he DID suspend the Jones Act to assist the oil companies in Texas after Harvey, who, in turn, raised prices at the pump and benefited from much cheaper shipping. America is living a giant lie under a purely self serving administration. "Puerto Rico is . . . like . . . an island . . . surrounded by water . . . in an ocean . . . a HUUUGE ocean . . . and we're doing a good job with Puerto Rico . . . the Puerto Rican governor thanked me . . . we're doing a great job on the ground . . . the Puerto Ricans love us . . . but its a long ways to Puerto Rico . . . and its an island . . . surrounded by an ocean . . . " God save us all.

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Old 09-28-2017, 07:21 AM
 
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To respond to the OP, the answer is a resounding NO (to the poll question) and YES to the thread title. The Federal response is decidedly not equivalent. The great Orange thing has steadfastly refused to suspend the Jones Act to assist Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. However, he DID suspend the Jones Act to assist the oil companies in Texas after Harvey, who, in turn, raised prices at the pump and benefited from much cheaper shipping. America is living a giant lie under a purely self serving administration. "Puerto Rico is . . . like . . . an island . . . surrounded by water . . . in an ocean . . . a HUUUGE ocean . . . and we're doing a good job with Puerto Rico . . . the Puerto Rican governor thanked me . . . we're doing a great job on the ground . . . the Puerto Ricans love us . . . but its a long ways to Puerto Rico . . . and its an island . . . surrounded by an ocean . . . " God save us all.
Jones Act has been lifted so you are incorrect. Anyways lifting the "Jones Act" is irrelevant, it's a red herring. Aid is piling up at the PR docks just waiting to be distributed. The problem is getting it distributed internally.

Since most of your post is directed at Trump-hate it's clear you are focused on an agenda that is unrelated to Puerto Rico, and thus your rant can be dismissed.
 
Old 09-28-2017, 07:26 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Lifting the "Jones Act" is irrelevant, it's a red herring. Aid is piling up at the PR docks just waiting to be distributed. The problem is getting it distributed internally.

Since most of your post is directed at Trump-hate it's clear you are focused on an agenda that is unrelated to Puerto Rico, and thus your rant can be dismissed.
^ this ... the piers are literally overflowing with supplies. There's just not enough troops and FEMA or State Emergency Management Agency (AEMEAD) workers to deliver them.

The Jones Act is a cop out, there are very few if any foreign flagged ships ready to deliver aid.
 
Old 09-28-2017, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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No, this is not a trolling attempt or a "baited" question.

The US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, and Puerto Rico are not states but they are all US territories and their people are US citizens and deserve to be treated equally like US citizens residing in the 50 US states are treated.

Why is that such a hard concept for some of you to understand and more importantly, accept?
Actually residents of American Samoa are not U.S. citizens, but U.S. nationals. They have automatic green cards when they move stateside, but they can't vote in U.S. elections.

Otherwise you are correct.
 
Old 09-28-2017, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Puerto Rico is finished. Most of the island will move here to florida now.
Ironic isn't it? If Republicans had actually given Puerto Rico some consideration - allowing for bankruptcy, moving forward on statehood, or putting some emphasis on aid now - things could be different. But as it stands hundreds of thousands - maybe even over a million - Ricans are going to come into the U.S. - many of whom will settle in swing states like Florida and Pennsylvania, immediately becoming Democratic voters, and quite possibly swinging the 2018 and 2020 elections away from the Republican Party.
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