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Old 08-23-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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It's odd that there's alot of continental Americans that don't even know Guam and Saipan exist yet they're both popular vacation spots for Japanese vacationers.
I find it most ironic when you consider Japan's brutal occupation of Guam during WW2. The Japanese executed anyone who spoke English in public ... now Japanese tourism drives Guam.
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:23 PM
 
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It's odd that there's alot of continental Americans that don't even know Guam and Saipan exist yet they're both popular vacation spots for Japanese vacationers.
most Americans don't care outside their county. I guess only the people in the state department, the CIA, defense know all the territories of the USA
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Old 08-25-2015, 06:36 AM
 
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I'm quite interested in this idea. I've been to Guam numerous times usually on the way to or from the Philippines and find it to be a potential retirement spot for me.

With that said, I've never been to Saipan and would like to hear any firsthand living experience the board might have.
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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A recent rumor has started about Saipan and Guam joining to create a state.
I think Guam and Saipan do not have the same type of legal affiliation with the United States.
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:03 PM
 
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I think Guam and Saipan do not have the same type of legal affiliation with the United States.
Both Guam and the NMI are territories, "commonwealth" as used in the NMI and Puerto Rico is a meaningless word. It literally means nothing.
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:14 PM
 
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Both Guam and the NMI are territories, "commonwealth" as used in the NMI and Puerto Rico is a meaningless word. It literally means nothing.
Thanks. I had thought that Saipan was some kind of UN trust territory where the residents could not vote, but still received US protection.
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:11 PM
 
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The problem with a combined CNMI and Guam becoming a state is its low population (210k combined). It's population would only be 40% of the population of Wyoming. Its small size suggests it will never have a population large enough that would make it 'state-worthy'. Yes, states have been admitted to the union with lower populations, but that was a long time ago, and everyone knew their populations would grow substantially.
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Old 08-26-2015, 12:08 AM
 
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Thanks. I had thought that Saipan was some kind of UN trust territory where the residents could not vote, but still received US protection.
Nope, it used to be but the CNMI has been a U.S. Territory since 1978. As such, they have non-voting representative in the U.S. House and all people born there are U.S. Citizens. They elect their local representatives and governor. If the residents move to one of the 50 states, they can vote for president or US senators or reps just like any other citizen. The other former members of the UN trust territory are now independent countries: Palau, the Marshall Islands, and the Federated States of Micronesia. The U.S. provides defense for these countries, but the residents aren't US citizens. If they move to one of the 50 states, they can't vote unless they go through the naturalization process like any other non-citizen.
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Old 08-26-2015, 02:06 PM
 
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Nope, it used to be but the CNMI has been a U.S. Territory since 1978.
Thanks for the detailed information. The changed status of Saipan might be the source of controversy of whether or not clothing produced on Saipan (evidently often in poor conditions) can be labeled made in the USA. I guess if it was made after 1978, it can bear the USA label.
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Old 08-26-2015, 05:12 PM
 
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A recent rumor has started about Saipan and Guam joining to create a state.
What will happen?
I want to know possible disadvantages and advantages to this.

Any ideas?
They're probably pissed because of the US controlling them. They should be ind pendant. And the US needs to GTFO and leave them be.

Sames goes for Hawaii. The US media has done a good job at blacking out the protests the continue fight the Native Hawaiians are having to become a Sovereign State.
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