U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > U.S. Territories
 [Register]
U.S. Territories Puerto Rico, Guam, U.S. Virgin Islands, etc.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 07-20-2018, 06:42 AM
 
328 posts, read 198,230 times
Reputation: 371

Advertisements

http://thehill.com/latino/397862-naa...ican-statehood
Rate this post positively

 
Old 07-20-2018, 09:24 AM
 
3,268 posts, read 1,463,249 times
Reputation: 2535
Quote:
In his speech to the NAACP Tuesday, Rosselló said, "colonialism is political segregation and it has no place in our country.”
Yes, end colonialism. It has no place in the modern world. It's inherently wrong. Let Puerto Rico be independent already.

True self-determination means independence.
Rate this post positively
 
Old 07-20-2018, 11:39 AM
 
11,048 posts, read 4,528,343 times
Reputation: 5236
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritone View Post
Yes, end colonialism. It has no place in the modern world. It's inherently wrong. Let Puerto Rico be independent already.

True self-determination means independence.

Puerto Rico doesn't want to be independent. You keep missing the memo for the past 50 years. Why you keep pushing for independence when you don't live on the island is beyond me. Are you even Puerto Rican? Do you have any roots in P.R.?......Just wondering......

They want to keep their American Citizenship and travel and live in any part of the 50 states and its territories for jobs, college or retirement with all the benefits and protection without a green card or asking permission to come to the USA as a visitor 6 to 12 months in advance with no benefits.

Puerto Ricans might be lots of things but We aren't fools...We see how the Mexicans, Dominicans, Venezuelans., Guatamantecos and the rest of the Latinos are struggling in their countries and the things they do to get in the USA. Why would we want to be in their shoes?


if you are doing well in Puerto Rico you stay but if you are not then you have 50 states to choose from for jobs, school or retirement in a nation with the best GDP in the world. Why would a Puerto Rican would take out that option for him/her and their family? for independence and a useless symbolic patriotism that is not going to put food on the table and bring jobs?
Rate this post positively
 
Old 07-20-2018, 01:13 PM
 
328 posts, read 198,230 times
Reputation: 371
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hellion1999 View Post
Puerto Rico doesn't want to be independent. You keep missing the memo for the past 50 years. Why you keep pushing for independence when you don't live on the island is beyond me.
Because people are tired of having to pay for PR's messes?
Rate this post positively
 
Old 07-20-2018, 03:10 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
7,801 posts, read 9,287,906 times
Reputation: 7340
Quote:
Originally Posted by Branal View Post
Because people are tired of having to pay for PR's messes?
I don't think you understand how a nation works. You see, it's not just about you and your wallet. It's about all of us collectively. How we can help each other and build a better society.

Also, the US never intended for Puerto Rico to become independent. Conversely, we always intended for the Philippines to become independent. That's why Puerto Ricans gpt US citizenship and Filipinos didn't. That's why US policy towards the Philippines under US rule always trended towards paving the way for independence. US policy regarding Puerto Rico has always trended towards ever increasing integration with the mainland.

1917 - US citizenship
1947 - elected governor
1952 - state-like local government albeit still subject to the Territorial Clause
1966 - Article III federal court the same as the states (the other territories still have Article IV federal courts)
1970 - Federal minimum wage extended to Puerto Rico

Shall I go on?
Rate this post positively
 
Old 07-20-2018, 03:44 PM
 
328 posts, read 198,230 times
Reputation: 371
Quote:
Originally Posted by WIHS2006 View Post
I don't think you understand how a nation works. You see, it's not just about you and your wallet. It's about all of us collectively. How we can help each other and build a better society.
If the US finally gets sick of PR they will cut it loose. It brings nothing to the table as tritone said. The island is a drain on our country.
Rate this post positively
 
Old 07-20-2018, 04:25 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
7,801 posts, read 9,287,906 times
Reputation: 7340
Quote:
Originally Posted by Branal View Post
If the US finally gets sick of PR they will cut it loose. It brings nothing to the table as tritone said. The island is a drain on our country.
So are the vast majority of Republican dominated states. Shall we get rid of them too? What does Alabama bring to the table? What does Idaho bring to the table?
Rate this post positively
 
Old 07-20-2018, 04:28 PM
 
3,268 posts, read 1,463,249 times
Reputation: 2535
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hellion1999 View Post
Are you even Puerto Rican? Do you have any roots in P.R.?......Just wondering...
No. But why is that relevant?

Colonialism as a concept is wrong and outdated. It's ridiculous that America has been holding on to Puerto Rico as a colony for over 100 years now. What's the purpose of it? The Philippines has moved on and they are better off because of that now. Why are we dragging around Puerto Rico?

Quote:
They want to keep their American Citizenship and travel and live in any part of the 50 states and its territories for jobs, college or retirement with all the benefits and protection without a green card or asking permission to come to the USA as a visitor 6 to 12 months in advance with no benefits.
You aren't seeing the bigger picture though. Look what this has done to the Island. When things are bad, people just leave, and Puerto Rico as a nation never improves. Then, our federal gov. endlessly throws money at PR to fix things up. Our colonial relationship with PR has proven to be unproductive. It's time to end it.

I'm glad the NAACP came around and spoke out against colonialism. Independence for Puerto Rico might gain more support from left-leaning people because of this.
Rate this post positively
 
Old 07-20-2018, 04:34 PM
 
328 posts, read 198,230 times
Reputation: 371
Quote:
Originally Posted by WIHS2006 View Post
So are the vast majority of Republican dominated states. Shall we get rid of them too? What does Alabama bring to the table? What does Idaho bring to the table?
Are those states corrupt? Did they have to be put under financial control because they borrowed 72 bn they can't pay back?
Rate this post positively
 
Old 07-20-2018, 05:28 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
7,801 posts, read 9,287,906 times
Reputation: 7340
Quote:
Originally Posted by Branal View Post
Are those states corrupt? Did they have to be put under financial control because they borrowed 72 bn they can't pay back?
They don't need to barrow money, their senators and congressmen (with overbalanced representation due to the Electoral College and equal representation) steal money from New Yorkers and Californians on their behalf. The producing states like New York, California, and Colorado are being robbed blind by the taker states.
Rate this post positively
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > U.S. Territories
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2021, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top