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Old 07-30-2018, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Central New Jersey
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Find them. Lock them up. Ship them back. Sadly many will find a way to return.
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Old 07-30-2018, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Philly
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American Citizens doing fraud is our problem, they are from this country.What we don't need are illegals that are not supposed to be here in the first place doing fraud and other crimes costing the taxpayers more money
anyone committing fraud in the US is our problem, we don't need legals committing fraud either.


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Why would you need a fake SS number or stolen one to work if you are a U.S. Citizen or here legally to work?
who said anything about that? people here illegally do need them to work, not just to get benefits as is some people's view.
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that proves that illegal immigration is a problem that brings wages down and causes all kinds of problems to the taxpayers.
it does nothing of the sort actually.

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When the government of Puerto Rico has to change the birth certificates and the stamp of every Puerto Rican born in the island in 2009/2010 because it was compromised and were being sold in the states to illegals (because there is a huge market for that) I hardly call that a small problem. That hardly got any press by the American media.
that's a different issue isn't it?
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Old 07-30-2018, 03:34 PM
 
Location: The end of the world
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Okay that person deserves to get arrested. Not because he is undocumented but because he stole money from multiple governments. Deporting a guy like that is too good for him. Because he already spent the cash.
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Old 07-30-2018, 04:36 PM
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As far as I know, any foreign-born convicted of a serious crime is liable to deportation after finishing the jail sentence (most are sent early for good behavior while in jail.)

That’s for foreign born people though. As we all know, American born people that work the system to get more than their fair share only do jail time if convicted, because they can’t be deported.

Now I’m wondering what demographic commits the most fraud, American born people or illegal immigrants?

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Old 07-30-2018, 06:58 PM
 
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anyone committing fraud in the US is our problem, we don't need legals committing fraud either.
Criminals who are citizens of our country it's our problem. We don't need foreign nationals coming here illegally breaking our laws which they are the moment they set foot in here without permission or stay here with expired visas. That's bad enough......what makes it worse them lying on any government form to get benefits or jobs and committing fraud.





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who said anything about that? people here illegally do need them to work, not just to get benefits as is some people's view.
illegal immigrants working here is against the law.............lying in any government form to get a job or benefits is against the law.

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it does nothing of the sort actually.
can you be more specific and back it up with FACTS and DATA other than your simple respond of "it does nothing of the sort actually."

Illegal immigration hurts wages and it hurts the poor and minorities here who are citizens the most because they have to compete with them for wages and for overcrowded public schools, government benefits, and housing which raises rent and the cost of living in the inner cities.

the ruling class doesn't care, the elites and rich get their cheap labor at the expense of the middle class and the poor citizens of this country.


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that's a different issue isn't it?
how is a different issue? it's identity theft by illegals because there is a huge demand in the states.

When the FBI informs the government of P.R. that thousands of their birth certificate has been compromised and it's ending up in cities with high illegal immigration (Chicago, Los Angeles and the rest of thje sanctuary cities run by Democrats) and being sold then yeah those are the consequences of having millions of illegals in our country and having 1 political party protecting them and building sanctuary cities in democrat controlled cities to protect them for deportation.
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Old 07-30-2018, 07:27 PM
 
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That’s for foreign born people though. As we all know, American born people that work the system to get more than their fair share only do jail time if convicted, because they can’t be deported.

what?????? if you are a foreign-born U.S. citizen you can never be deported for a crime. .......ILLEGALS have no right to be here and they shouldn't get rights, they are citizens from another country who entered here illegally and committed felonies. Deport them back to their country and let his/her government deal with them. .......how are you going to make them pay the money back in prison? that cost the taxpayers 3 meals a day with health and dental care in prison and the cost of keeping them in prison.



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Now I’m wondering what demographic commits the most fraud, American born people or illegal immigrants?



it doesn't matter your silly question.....it's like asking who commits more fraud and crime in Mexico, Mexicans or illegals coming in Mexico from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador? yeah, I'm sure Mexico has the toughest immigration laws in the world because most of their crimes are committed by Mexican citizens.


they are NOT supposed to be here..........it's bad enough we have to deal with our domestic criminals, we don't need foreign criminals here illegally that should have been deported a long time ago....many break our laws and get deported 3, 4, 5 times and they keep coming back in here and hide in sanctuary cities. Our immigration laws are a joke.

Just like the illegal Mexican that shot that poor girl on Pier 15 in San Francisco, Kathryn Steinle. This guy was deported 5 TIMES with 7 FELONY convictions in the U.S. then comebacks easily to democrat sanctuary cities in California like nothing and kills this girl for NO REASON and the stupid looney lefty jury in San Francisco acquitted him of all murder and manslaughter charges. That should have never happened. He should have been deported ONCE and that be would be the end of him and that poor girl should still be alive if our government did their job.

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Old 08-02-2018, 09:43 PM
 
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while identity theft is a serious crime, 110 cases is hardly a pervasive problem and sessions appears to simply be using it as a propaganda tool to get people worked up about illegal immigration in general. I'm glad to see the federal government doing its job (catching fraud) and hppefully they also take fraud by american citizens seriously as well.
people also use fake SS numbers simply to work.


https://northsidesun.com/news-breaki....FoKVl30B.dpbs
How do YOU know it's not pervasive just because they've only identified a hundred or so? If the illegals use dead people's SS #s is that OK because they 'simply want to work'?
Time to tag every US citizen and legal immigrant with DNA ID and fine the living bollux out of any employer who employs the intruders, either knowingly OR NOT.

People who overstay their visa can be ejected immediately, like they do in Canada, because, oddly enough, that is precisely the legal and due process.
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