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Old 08-04-2018, 12:13 PM
 
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Cuba is more exotic because they were completely closed off for so long. Not only that, but we’ve all seen the pictures of Havana which look like it is stuck in the 1950’s. Americans are curious about a place so different then home.

San Juan has a good reputation as a tourist destination in its own right. Relative to many of its neighbors, Puerto Rico doesn’t seem so interesting. Even compared to say Jamaica, Virgin Islands, or the Cayman Islands.

Puerto Rico is actually a very interesting place and very beautiful, but they haven’t marketed their image very well.





so were the European countries after WW 2 under Soviet communist control......I wouldn't call that "exotic".


Cubans are so poor and oppressed that Cuba is famous for Sex tourism including underage girls and boys In Cuban slang, female prostitutes are called Jineteras, and gay male prostitutes are called Jineteros or Pingueros. Sex trafficking it's a huge problem in Cuba.


and don't get me started in Cuba's human rights violations by their government.




I wouldn't spend a penny in that island to enrich the a-holes running that government.
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Old 08-04-2018, 12:32 PM
 
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Nope that's irrelevant. Don't start an off-topic debate. The U.S response was as fast as possible given the number of disasters that happened at the same time. It's Puerto Ricans that weren't quick to act nor did they prepare for the storms that they knew were coming. Perishable food was literally left to spoil on the docks.

PERISHABLE food was literally left to spoil....hmmm, like it was a HURRICANE dead center on PR meaning POWER outages occurred, meaning PERISHABLE food was likely going to SPOIL with NO refrigeration possible! And this was an ISLAND, so its not like residents could just pack it all up and DRIVE to another area like those on the gulf coast! The response was INADEQUATE PERIOD!
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Old 08-04-2018, 01:25 PM
 
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Who controls the electricity in Puerto Rico? is not the federal government.....the federal government can throw all the millions of taxpayers dollars into that money pit they call the Power Company in Puerto Rico and still the results would have been the same....6 to 9 months delay.




they had plenty of can foods. If you live in an island that always gets hurricanes and tropical storms and has a very dysfunctional and corrupt government, then it's your responsibility to stack your house with food cans and water for at least a few months.


I grew up with Chef Boyardee, Kraft's Mac and cheese and instant cup noodles during bad times.....my mom's fridge was broken for 6 months when I was a kid because she didn't have the money to buy a new one. That's when we learn to be creative with food and spices.



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Old 08-04-2018, 04:08 PM
 
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I wouldn't spend a penny in that island to enrich the a-holes running that government.

But you think our government should be dumping billions of dollars on Puerto Rico?
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Old 08-04-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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But you think our government should be dumping billions of dollars on Puerto Rico?



Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory and the people in it are U.S. Citizens for over 100 years....you didn't get the memo in your history class?




add that Puerto Rico NEVER pointed nuclear warheads against the United States and Puerto Rico never declared the U.S. the #1 enemy and Puerto Rico didn't confiscate U.S. businesses and private properties from Americans...Communist Cuba did.


do I need to give you a power point presentation in history so you understand the big difference between Cuba and P.R.?
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Old 08-05-2018, 09:50 AM
 
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Last night I stumbled upon an article that was interesting to read. Now I'm wondering if it's true or how much of it is true.


1. Had Puerto Rico been more like Cuba, do you think the U.S. would had been much quicker and more effective to relieve the island after a major hurricane?

2.Is PR seen as "a nuisance like a wad of gum stuck at the bottom of a shoe", as is claimed by the author, while Cuba is seen "a colorful fantasy that lasts and lasts like a life savers lollipop"?

1. Puerto Rico has or will receive more than THREE TIMES the $$$ per capita that Alabama gets in Federal funds! What the hell more do they want?
At least Cuba doesn't suck off the American teat like the welfare island does.. and still whines that it ain't enough!

2. Quite likely. There is a huge difference between both places. Cuba is prideful and independent, tho dirt poor, but at least it's beaches aren't covered in litter or the windows barred to keep criminals out. But I think that's mostly because there is nothing to buy so there is also nothing to steal! Loosening the restrictions on private enterprise will do wonders for Cuba and it's people, whereas free enterprise has been suffocated by rampant corruption and a culture of dependency in P.R.

P.S. I just returned from a ten day visit to Cuba and found it a dirt-poor but fascinating place frozen in time.
P.R. is, by comparison, simply a dump.

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Old 08-05-2018, 11:26 AM
 
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I'm Puerto Rican that lived in the island for years,.....the same idiots that complain that the "US don't want us" "the U.S. treats us inferior compare to other states" are the same people that when statehood is on the ballot in Puerto Rico they either vote against it or stay home and don't vote at all.




those are the Populares and independentistas (that many move to the 50 states for better jobs and public services but don't want P.R. to be a state no matter what) but every time the topic of statehood comes they reject it or talk negatively about it but want the U.S. to treat Puerto Rico as a state in aid and benefits.......I will always call them out because they are part of the problem.




one more time for the slow readers in here........you can't compare the recovery of the hurricane in Puerto Rico to Florida and Texas even though the Feds send more money to Puerto Rico because:


Texas and Florida have better state economies, there are better run government states at the local and state levels, they have a stronger private sector and their power companies that is key for any recovery is better run than Puerto Rico.......so those states are going to recover a lot faster with less federal aid than Puerto Rico.


but the idiots in the island don't understand that, they have this anti-american inferiority complex issue that the U.S. don't want Puerto Rico and they treat Puerto Ricans inferior......you have the mayor of San Juan who is anti-Trump socialist, comrade Carmen Yulin playing the trumpet since the hurricane hit the island .....she is also against statehood but expects the U.S. to treat P.R. as a state in aid and benefits....the nerves of this woman and the likes of her.
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Old 08-05-2018, 05:44 PM
 
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While there are bad things about Communism I do think it helped modernize Cubans on things like treatment of women and most people there having basic education. In the USA Cubans have tremendous upward mobility and seem to cause few problems, similar to immigrants from Europe and E Asia.
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Old 08-05-2018, 06:36 PM
 
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While there are bad things about Communism I do think it helped modernize Cubans on things like treatment of women and most people there having basic education. In the USA Cubans have tremendous upward mobility and seem to cause a few problems, similar to immigrants from Europe and E Asia.



LMAO!!! So you need to implement communism and confiscate people's personal properties and bank accounts and take away their basic rights to learn how to treat a woman or have basic education.




Cubans that escaped Cuba prospered here because of the freedoms, economy and the opportunities offered in this great country of ours and not being dependant on the government. .....the same with the Asians and Europeans that escaped communism.
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Old 08-05-2018, 06:52 PM
 
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Puerto Rico produces one of the best rums in the world if not the best. Bacardi, the world's most popular rum, has a massive distillery located in Cataño. Don Q, Favored by locals as the best rum in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has been making RUM since the 16th century.
Yep, Don Q is def a go to but traditionally Ron del Barrelito is considered the old school sipping rum. Good rich flavor without the added sugar or molasses flavoring some mfg mix in after distilling/aging. More recently the dark Havana Club distilled by Bacardi has become a favorite but I believe it does have added sugar.
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