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Old 03-22-2019, 02:12 PM
 
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I told you!!!!! all the drama and circus during the aftermath of the hurricane was for one thing and one thing only, putting herself in the position to be governor. She is an independentista and doesn't believe in the Commonwealth status but she is in the PPD party just to be in power.

I heard her long speech today in Spanish live by Facebook and was word for word a Chavista/Maduro speech of class warfare of the rich/corporations vs the poor and she is going to be their savior. She used jibaro jokes that only poor people from the countryside (campo) can relate to like: “ Para la leche que da la vaca, que se la mame el becerro”.....“Despues de todo, el gallo canta y canta pero la de los huevos es la gallina.”


She is using the same Latino socialist textbook to fool the masses.

I'd give her right now a 45% chance to win. Just because she will get a lot of donations from the Democrat party donors and Anti-Trumpsters. Now you know why she was flying a lot to the U.S. mainland and not taking care of the City of San Juan.

2020 in Puerto Rico will be a referendum for a socialist independent P.R. with Yulin.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...o-rico-n986331
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Old 03-22-2019, 02:51 PM
 
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I must admit that I am surprised, I felt for sure that she would run for resident commissioner given her seemingly endless trips to the mainland and her total abandonment of San Juan. That said, there will be a primary and I think there's a good chance that she will lose (other contenders: Eduardo Bhatia, Roberto Prats, Charlie Delgado, and there's a chance that the 2016 nominee David Bernier could throw his hat in the ring as well). The reality is that she doesn't really have much support within the PPD, everyone knows she's an independenista using the PPD to win elections.

Speaking of Chavez and Maduro, did you happen to catch who was sitting in the front row? OSCAR LOPEZ. Yep, an unrepentant terrorist who has publicly declared that "Venezuela under Maduro is a paradise".
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Old 03-22-2019, 03:51 PM
 
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All this is very interesting to me...like I don´t remember Fortuño, García Padilla having so much contact with the mainland the way that this lady does, and Rosselló to an extent has as well. Disclaimer: these are the only people I have been able to really keep track of, since I moved to the island in the second half of Fortuño´s administration and left as Garcia Padilla got elected.

Dislike of Carmen aside, do you folks believe that future governors of PR will be much more connected to the Mainland? It´s just interesting to see how politics will change on the island from here on out.
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Old 03-22-2019, 05:48 PM
 
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Dislike of Carmen aside, do you folks believe that future governors of PR will be much more connected to the Mainland? It´s just interesting to see how politics will change on the island from here on out.
Tough to say, much of the national media focus on Carmen Yulin and Ricky Rossello is a direct result of Hurricane Maria (especially so for Yulin). Luis Fortuno was widely seen as an up and coming figure within the Republican Party before his 2012 defeat but you'd have to go all the way back to Luis Munoz Marin to find a Puerto Rican politician with a large amount of national exposure.

I guess time will tell.
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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I must admit that I am surprised, I felt for sure that she would run for resident commissioner given her seemingly endless trips to the mainland and her total abandonment of San Juan. That said, there will be a primary and I think there's a good chance that she will lose (other contenders: Eduardo Bhatia, Roberto Prats, Charlie Delgado, and there's a chance that the 2016 nominee David Bernier could throw his hat in the ring as well). The reality is that she doesn't really have much support within the PPD, everyone knows she's an independent using the PPD to win elections.

Speaking of Chavez and Maduro, did you happen to catch who was sitting in the front row? OSCAR LOPEZ. Yep, an unrepentant terrorist who has publicly declared that "Venezuela under Maduro is a paradise".
I wasn't surprised. I knew she had the governorship as the ultimate goal since 2012. I thought she was going to challenged Alejandro Padilla within the party in 2016 but she knew 2016 wasn't her year and that would divide the party and she would get the blame. Most San Juan Mayors in Puerto Rico use that like a trampoline get to the governorship (a few exceptions in history) and her actions after the hurricane proved me and a lot of people right about her.

You underestimate her, I don't. She has the LGBT community voters, the millennials, the independentistas, the left wing of the democrat party (Sanders, Warren and feminist wing of the party), she is going to play the gender card all the way. She speaks English well and she speaks the old school Boricua dialect of the people in the rural side (campo). She was going off in her speech today with:


“ Para la leche que da la vaca, que se la mame el becerro”.....“Despues de todo, el gallo canta y canta pero la de los huevos es la gallina.” LMAO!!!!! she is going old school here. I haven't heard that since my grandparents were alive and they died in the 70's and they were rural Puerto Rico. She is going after the rural vote and she will use the Bernie Sanders playbook, she is going to ride with Bernie and Bernie is going to carry water for her on the island. .........she knows she has a good solid support in San Juan where she got re-elected, she needs the rural votes in the PPD to win the nomination of her party.


Going against her is the Pro USA Conservatives in the PPD that want a permanent union with the USA and are not socialists but the bench is weak. I don't see anybody in the PPD bench that has her status and platform. Time will tell, a year is a long time in politics.



I would give her a 55% to 60% chance of winning the nomination as of a now......but my money is that Rosello beats her in the general (as of now)
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:38 PM
 
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Dislike of Carmen aside, do you folks believe that future governors of PR will be much more connected to the Mainland? It´s just interesting to see how politics will change on the island from here on out.



governors are supposed to be connected to Washington. It's their job since the government of P.R. depends in federal aid to run their government and federal laws and regulations apply in the island, so the governors need a solid connection and allies in Washington in both parties.



the problem with Yulin is she is not the governor, she is just the mayor of San Juan and she left San Juan unattended and neglected to be in the USA to be involved in Democrat politics and donors and the American media for herself. For a person that is against statehood and the commonwealth status and is an independentista it sure is funny.
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:52 PM
 
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I wasn't surprised. I knew she had the governorship as the ultimate goal since 2012. I thought she was going to challenged Alejandro Padilla within the party in 2016 but she knew 2016 wasn't her year and that would divide the party and she would get the blame. Most San Juan Mayors in Puerto Rico use that like a trampoline get to the governorship (a few exceptions in history) and her actions after the hurricane proved me and a lot of people right about her.

You underestimate her, I don't. She has the LGBT community voters, the millennials, the independentistas, the left wing of the democrat party (Sanders, Warren and feminist wing of the party), she is going to play the gender card all the way. She speaks English well and she speaks the old school Boricua dialect of the people in the rural side (campo). She was going off in her speech today with:


“ Para la leche que da la vaca, que se la mame el becerro”.....“Despues de todo, el gallo canta y canta pero la de los huevos es la gallina.” LMAO!!!!! she is going old school here. I haven't heard that since my grandparents were alive and they died in the 70's and they were rural Puerto Rico. She is going after the rural vote and she will use the Bernie Sanders playbook, she is going to ride with Bernie and Bernie is going to carry water for her on the island. .........she knows she has a good solid support in San Juan where she got re-elected, she needs the rural votes in the PPD to win the nomination of her party.


Going against her is the Pro USA Conservatives in the PPD that want a permanent union with the USA and are not socialists but the bench is weak. I don't see anybody in the PPD bench that has her status and platform. Time will tell, a year is a long time in politics.



I would give her a 55% to 60% chance of winning the nomination as of a now......but my money is that Rosello beats her in the general (as of now)
Only about 35-40% of Populares identify as "soberanista" according to the PPD's own internal polling ... and a fair number of them will likely vote for Charlie Delgado.

She could certainly win the primary given that the pro-union vote is split between Bhatia and Prats ... but then she would have to unify the party after winning with 30-40% of the vote in the primary and I don't see how she can do that.
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Old 03-22-2019, 10:25 PM
 
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Only about 35-40% of Populares identify as "soberanista" according to the PPD's own internal polling ... and a fair number of them will likely vote for Charlie Delgado.

She could certainly win the primary given that the pro-union vote is split between Bhatia and Prats ... but then she would have to unify the party after winning with 30-40% of the vote in the primary and I don't see how she can do that.

I like her chances to win the primary but 1 year is a long time in politics. She has the San Juan district locked up in her party. 2 term mayor of San Juan gives her that advantage politically, they call it "maquinaria politica $$$$$$". She has to win the rural votes in her party to win the nomination, she is talking that rural jive ........we will see her political donations and campaign from her trips to the USA kick in. You will see some Hollywood actors and democrat politicians coming to the island campaigning for her including Bernie Sanders and that will go a long way for her in a tight primary.



the PPD have 45 control cities while the PNP has 33.......if she can get 20 to 23 PPD mayors backing her, she has a shot.


it depends on how she wins the primary....if she wins by going too far to the left and talks a lot about Republica Asociada then Rosello kills her in the general and wins re-election but he has to play his cards right and make it about her and her past anti-American statements and her crazy Republica Asociada with dual citizenship proposal she has been pushing.
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Old 03-24-2019, 06:58 AM
 
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The one thing I noticed about her campaign kickoff is nothing she mentioned was about fixing something she would control as governor.
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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The one thing I noticed about her campaign kickoff is nothing she mentioned was about fixing something she would control as governor.

I'm still waiting for her to tell us what she has done in San Juan that made the city better in the last 6 years but the media loves her. El Nuevo Dia Newspaper did a 6 pages reporting after she announced all about her. When Ricardo Rosello announced back in 2016 it was 1 page of reporting.
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