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Old 12-03-2019, 08:48 PM
 
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Old 12-03-2019, 10:40 PM
 
Location: 53179
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Well, I think in a professional environment they should speak a language everybody understands.
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Old 12-04-2019, 05:10 AM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Damned if you do, damned if you don´t. If it´s not your boss saying something like this, it´s your family tormenting you for not speaking Spanish well enough or wanting to be "gringo".

It´s tough trying to navigate both cultures; it should be a strength, but the weak ones on both sides only want to bring you down.
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Old 12-04-2019, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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I would understand in a state like New York or Georgia, which were English colonies and the original 13 states of the USA. Florida is different. For one thing, Spanish has been spoken since Juan Ponce de Leon discovered the peninsula. Ironically, he's the same guy that settled Puerto Rico and is buried at the main cathedral in Old San Juan. The governor of Puerto Rico still lives at his house. lol The state's name itself is in Spanish. Its not an original state of the USA. I'm sorry, but Spanish should be one of the official languages there, just as it is in New Mexico.
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Old 12-04-2019, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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IMO, it's not cool when you have no idea what half your employees are saying half the time. Out of respect they should speak English. But we know some people don't give a crap.

But you cannot fire them for being rude.
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Old 12-04-2019, 06:16 AM
 
Location: california
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To assimilate into a country it is required to speak the language.
Those who choose not to assimilate are invaders.
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Old 12-04-2019, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Boydton, VA
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That is also the rule in San Juan.....at the VA Hospital.....but was not enforced when we were there. Dual language skills has an important place in healthcare....many patients speak little or no english, so the ability to converse in the native language of the patient is not only important, but https://www.indemandinterpreting.com...nds-risk-1.pdf. Hospitals employ or hire temporary interpreters. But that is where the native language should stop....with the patient. Conversing with staff, editing digital patient records is done in english in US healthcare facilities....as it should.

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Old 12-04-2019, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Philly
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IMO, it's not cool when you have no idea what half your employees are saying half the time. Out of respect they should speak English. But we know some people don't give a crap.

But you cannot fire them for being rude.
this. it's not about invaders or that ponce de leon "discovered" florida, it is simply rude but people can be rude in english. being rude can get you fired but not necessarily so, particularly since it is rude to your coworkers rather than the customer. under the quoted equal opportunity law, it does not sound like chatting in english is a business necessity.
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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IMO, it's not cool when you have no idea what half your employees are saying half the time. Out of respect they should speak English. But we know some people don't give a crap.

But you cannot fire them for being rude.
Last time I checked, the USA doesn't have an official language. It could change tomorrow, but until then it doesn't. Many states do have an official language and there are states such as New Mexico which has two official languages, Spanish among them.

According to Florida, the state has English as its official language. I find it stupid not to include Spanish when it has been spoken there since 1513. It didn't officially became a US territory until 1821 and unofficially since 1818. The entire time not only did descendants of Spaniards (both mixed and "unmixed" types) continue to speak Spanish up to today. That's 506 years vs the 201 years associated to the US and 198 years officially a US territory.

That's not even taking the Natives into account, who's language(s) are even older in Florida.

Point is that Florida (means flowery place in Spanish) has been a Spanish place for much longer than it has been a US place, and Spanish is the oldest European language with only the Native ones being older. There are parts of Florida, especially in the Miami area, where Spanish is virtually the lingua franca. Many places in Florida are named in Spanish (ie. Boca Ratón, Boca Chica, Sarasota, etc). The predominant architecture in Florida is based from Spanish styles (cement walls, stucco facades, in many places tile roofs, etc.; not quite what predominates in places like Hawaii, where the architecture is based on Polynesian styles than Spanish or British ones. Any place in the US that has a Spanish past and in the people usually has a predominantly Spanish based architecture). How can anyone be in Florida and not be reminded of Spain is beyond me, taking into account that the evidence is conspicuous and basically everywhere, including in many people and in the Spanish language they use.

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Old 12-04-2019, 09:17 AM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Should US expats be treated in the same fashion in their foreign workplaces?
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