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View Poll Results: Should Puerto Rico become a state or an independent nation?
State 53 42.06%
Independent nation 63 50.00%
Other (please specify in your post) 10 7.94%
Voters: 126. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 09-05-2020, 01:43 PM
 
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If Puerto Rico becomes a state then, it will not look good for the economy there.

Granting statehood to Puerto Rico would set back the island’s economy, cost American companies billions of dollars and decrease sources of federal revenues.

According to a new report published by the U.S General Accountability Office (GAO), out of the estimated $5.2 billion in new federal spending Puerto Rico would receive, only a range of $2-4 billion would come back in new revenues for the federal government. However, statehood would mean that every day Puerto Ricans would be saddled with $2.3 billion in new federal taxes that they do not pay today.https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gao-c...mIt2fq01bEr6B8
Keep in mind that Puerto Rico as a state means more clout in Congress and the potential for more federal resources and handouts, especially if Puerto Rico is considered to be a swing state and doesn't consistently vote for one party over the other. Puerto Rico today, as a US territory but not a state, is an afterthought for many politicians in DC.
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Old 09-05-2020, 05:21 PM
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Keep in mind that Puerto Rico as a state means more clout in Congress and the potential for more federal resources and handouts, especially if Puerto Rico is considered to be a swing state and doesn't consistently vote for one party over the other. Puerto Rico today, as a US territory but not a state, is an afterthought for many politicians in DC.
It also makes it a stronger contender for business relocations and for tourism.
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Old 09-05-2020, 09:08 PM
 
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Keep in mind that Puerto Rico as a state means more clout in Congress and the potential for more federal resources and handouts, especially if Puerto Rico is considered to be a swing state and doesn't consistently vote for one party over the other. Puerto Rico today, as a US territory but not a state, is an afterthought for many politicians in DC.
If Puerto Rico chooses independence in free association with the U.S., Puerto Rico would finally have access to global markets, new sources of national revenues, internationalization, control over its economic variables, and the power to actually formulate and implement long-term economic development policies.
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Old 09-06-2020, 02:48 AM
 
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If Puerto Rico chooses independence in free association with the U.S., Puerto Rico would finally have access to global markets, new sources of national revenues, internationalization, control over its economic variables, and the power to actually formulate and implement long-term economic development policies.
Here is the simplified version of this issue. If they choose independence, their standard of living will go down. If they choose to remain a commonwealth, life stays the same. If they choose statehood, life will improve. That said, some years back WaPo had an article on this issue. What the article said that if PR becomes a state, it will take it 50 years to get to where MS is now. IOW, life will slowly but steadily improve.
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Old 09-06-2020, 05:54 AM
 
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Here is the simplified version of this issue. If they choose independence, their standard of living will go down. If they choose to remain a commonwealth, life stays the same. If they choose statehood, life will improve. That said, some years back WaPo had an article on this issue. What the article said that if PR becomes a state, it will take it 50 years to get to where MS is now. IOW, life will slowly but steadily improve.

I not from the US or Puerto Rico, but I don't understand why there is a popular opinion for Puerto Rico to be state instead of Independence. After all I live in Australia. Australia after all has for a long time choose the independence path instead of being part of the British Empire, or a British overseas territory. However Australia is part of the British commonwealth of nations and there is cultural and economic links with it. However a century ago it was very much accepted among Australians they were British subjects as well as proudly so, and it was the law too of the land.
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Old 09-06-2020, 08:47 AM
 
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If Puerto Rico chooses independence, they'll be teaching the Queen's English instead of American.
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Old 09-06-2020, 07:57 PM
 
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I not from the US or Puerto Rico, but I don't understand why there is a popular opinion for Puerto Rico to be state instead of Independence. After all I live in Australia. Australia after all has for a long time choose the independence path instead of being part of the British Empire, or a British overseas territory. However Australia is part of the British commonwealth of nations and there is cultural and economic links with it. However a century ago it was very much accepted among Australians they were British subjects as well as proudly so, and it was the law too of the land.
The majority of Puerto Ricans realize that if they sever ties from the US, their standard of living will go down. Plus, many of them have relatives stateside. They want to be able to travel freely to visit with one another. They also want to be able to take a job stateside, especially with high unemployment running rampant on the Island.
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Old 09-06-2020, 08:12 PM
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I not from the US or Puerto Rico, but I don't understand why there is a popular opinion for Puerto Rico to be state instead of Independence. After all I live in Australia. Australia after all has for a long time choose the independence path instead of being part of the British Empire, or a British overseas territory. However Australia is part of the British commonwealth of nations and there is cultural and economic links with it. However a century ago it was very much accepted among Australians they were British subjects as well as proudly so, and it was the law too of the land.
Puerto Ricans are US citizens. They have proudly served in our armed forces. Probably 40% of Puerto Ricans are currently living in the 50 states.

Only about 5% of Puerto Ricans want independence. The rest have traditionally been split between statehood and continuing the commonwealth. 96% voted for statehood in the last referendum, but the opposition boycotted the referendum, so its hard to know what the real split is.
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Old 09-07-2020, 01:53 AM
 
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Puerto Ricans are US citizens. They have proudly served in our armed forces. Probably 40% of Puerto Ricans are currently living in the 50 states.

Only about 5% of Puerto Ricans want independence. The rest have traditionally been split between statehood and continuing the commonwealth. 96% voted for statehood in the last referendum, but the opposition boycotted the referendum, so its hard to know what the real split is.

I still not so sure why they really want statehood due to that. Commonwealth nations such as Australia can easily serve in the British armed forces if they want to. Australians live all over the UK as well.

BTW the Bahamas which is next to Puerto Rico is no longer a UK colony and is independent but part of the commonwealth. However the GDP is the highest in Latin America. Its doing very well and no longer has the colonial mentality.https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ica-caribbean/

BTW the turn of the referendum was only 20% for the last referendum. So it is rather vague if 96% want to be a state of the USA.

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Old 09-07-2020, 03:13 AM
 
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The majority of Puerto Ricans realize that if they sever ties from the US, their standard of living will go down. Plus, many of them have relatives stateside. They want to be able to travel freely to visit with one another. They also want to be able to take a job stateside, especially with high unemployment running rampant on the Island.
Plus, statehood would also allow them (US citizens) to vote in presidential elections, as well as have representation in Congress. To some people, that's a terrifying thought.
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