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View Poll Results: Should Puerto Rico become a state or an independent nation?
State 72 45.00%
Independent nation 73 45.63%
Other (please specify in your post) 15 9.38%
Voters: 160. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-24-2021, 10:45 AM
 
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Status Quo- Keep Act 60 lol

PR can become the Singapore of the Americas if they stick with Act 60 and they raise capital gains on the mainland to over 40% like they've been talking about. Investment will come in to modernize the island and it will create more jobs over time.
Not with the lefty socialist light government (Spaniard Colony syndrome) they are used to and addicted to federal aid and higher taxes and thinking they are above the private sector mentality.

Singapore dominating political party for 66 years is the People's Action Party. A conservative centre-right (that's unheard of in Puerto Rico). They are big in the free market and low taxes and they understand how to create jobs and the economy and make it rain money. There is no capital gains tax (great to invest and no double taxation) and no inheritance tax. If you make money outside of Singapore and bring it back, NO taxation ( again, no double taxation ) low corporate and individual tax rates. American Republicans are for that system.

Puerto Rico's government are heavily in the bed with the Democrat Party in the U.S. and they believe the opposite of Singapore. It's sad because I know pro business Puerto Ricans in the island that some are independentistas and they create economy and jobs in the island with the same mentality as Singapore but that movement has been taken over for decades bya left socialist ideology with identity politics and big on handouts and big taxes and shut anybody different out of the movement. I know a family in Puerto Rico that owns a chain of Super Markets in the island and are pro independent pro capitalist and pro open markets and low taxes and hates socialism and the lefty ideology that has taken the government of P.R. and say that is part of the economic problem.
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Old 04-28-2021, 10:34 AM
 
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Status Quo- Keep Act 60 lol

PR can become the Singapore of the Americas if they stick with Act 60 and they raise capital gains on the mainland to over 40% like they've been talking about. Investment will come in to modernize the island and it will create more jobs over time.
they need to link the benefits to lowering rates on domestic businesses that puerto ricans run. as long as there's one set of rules for relocating businesses and another for locals, there will be some tension. modernization is important, especially in things people see like roads and power as well as schools, but changes also need to be made to make it easier to succeed in opening a hotel, running a restaurant, etc.
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Old 04-28-2021, 02:05 PM
 
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Whatever happens, I don't believe PR should be independent.
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Old 04-28-2021, 04:32 PM
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they need to link the benefits to lowering rates on domestic businesses that puerto ricans run. as long as there's one set of rules for relocating businesses and another for locals, there will be some tension. .
yeah agreed. it rewards carpetbaggers and creates an unfair situation for those that stayed
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Old 04-28-2021, 04:35 PM
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Whatever happens, I don't believe PR should be independent.
there are 35 independent nations in the americas. nothing wrong with being your own country.
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Old 04-28-2021, 08:20 PM
 
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there are 35 independent nations in the americas. nothing wrong with being your own country.

yeah but those 35 independent nations were never U.S. Citizens. That ship has sailed decades ago. Tell me in history of the U.S. of a territory full of U.S. Citizens that they were given independence to 5% that requested it and caused a constitutional crisis and a civil war?



A country can't be independent when they are citizens of another nation and the U.S. is not in a business of giving real estate away. The U.S. owns the cow, why give up the barn to 5% to control.
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Old 04-29-2021, 06:44 PM
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youre not wrong - theres no precedent and no appetite.

but can you refrain from calling PR 'the cow'?
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Old 04-29-2021, 11:03 PM
 
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youre not wrong - theres no precedent and no appetite.

but can you refrain from calling PR 'the cow'?

it's a saying. I think more about Texas when I think of cows. Oklahoma second. Argentina 3rd. Puerto Rico is more papayas than cows. Why give up the farm when you own the papayas. Better? lol

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Old 05-01-2021, 11:14 AM
 
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Whatever happens, I don't believe PR should be independent.
Because?
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Old 05-05-2021, 07:26 PM
 
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Because?

They are U.S. Citizens. That's like asking if Black-Americans should return to Africa and be with their kind. First, the Democrat party would lose most of their base and they wouldn't allow it. Second, you would have a constitutional crisis and third the U.S. is not in the business of giving real estate away.


Independence is not even an option but for some that live in fantasy land. You have one poster here that believes P.R. will negotiate for independence. I mean, you have to be in some kind of acid trip to find a political force in Puerto Rico that will negotiate independence since the 2 political forces in the island are anti-independence and over 95% reject it.




LOL. I mean, just on the action of the word negotiate, a side has to come to the table and offer the party that holds all the cards something to the table just for them to be entertained before they start laughing. If your ideology can't win 1 town out of 78 in Puerto Rico, you shouldn't be anywhere the building negotiating let alone let you sit at the table.

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