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Old 09-27-2020, 08:00 AM
 
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and Democrats have morals and principles? Democrats aren't about gaining power? LOL. The party that wants to stack the deck in Congress by pushing D.C. and P.R. as states while ignoring the constitution and facts about Puerto Rico. The party that wants to raise the Supreme Court seats so they can stack it with their judges. The party that wants more federal grab and more taxes? they aren't about power? LMAO! You sound really silly and you shouldn't be throwing rocks when the party you support lives in a China glass house. Look how they turned California especially Los Angeles. If you want political identity and big government controlling our energy by taxing the people 'til death and globalism then keep voting Democrat. Why would you want to change the Republican party like the Democrats. So we have a 1 party nation of big government, identity politics and high taxes? No thank you.

Progressives are inclusive alright, if you agree with them. You don't see conservatives at liberal rallies ejecting violence to stop the event. You won't see conservatives at colleges protesting with violence and destruction so liberals don't speak. All these violence from protests in Portland and many other cities are not coming from conservatives. Is that the inclusiveness from the left you are talking about? Hollywood is a perfect example. If you are not liberal progressive you are not part of the club and hard to get a job in that town and they get nasty on you on social media even getting you fired if you don't agree with them. yeah, inclusive alright.

Get your facts straight. Obama didn't have the votes in the Senate to push Garland. He was told don't bother you don't have the votes to wait after the election and Obama did anyway. Trump has the votes in the Senate (a close one but he has it) so he has a constitutional duty to name a judge and let the Senate pass it or reject it. If Obama had the votes in the Senate in 2016, Garland would be in the SC but he didn't have the votes and Garland is history like Bork (remember him?) payback in politics is a funny thing and Democrats have a short memory. Blame Obama for losing the majority in the house in 2010 and Senate in 2014 under his presidency. Elections has consequences.
As someone who is past 60 years of age, there's no rhetoric that's about to change my views or position on several issues. As I stated, I voted Republican in the 80's and 90's. They lost my vote when the GOP upchucked Dubya as presidential candidate, followed by this orange disgusting bile AKA ConDon in NYC's 70's.

BTW, I'm more of a moderate and a centrist. The GOP has swung too far to the right from my perspective. The Democratic Party has swung too far to the left. As it stands, my Vote for Democratic Candidates is more of a vote against ConDon and his minions than it is a vote for Joe Biden. I hope for the day of a Centrist Party; a party which is fiscally conservative, socially liberal, considerate of the environment, etc.

As for California, I will take all it has to offer, good, bad, or indifferent. This is home.

Relax, dude!

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Old 09-27-2020, 08:28 AM
 
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Texas doesn't get a cent from California. Texas' economy stands on it's own. .
Gawd you do not understand. The excess money that CA pays to the federal government is distributed by the federal government to the poor Republican states like TX. If you feel better getting your allowance from Mom although Dad had the job that earned it then fine.
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Old 09-27-2020, 11:06 AM
 
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As someone who is past 60 years of age, there's no rhetoric that's about to change my views or position on several issues. As I stated, I voted Republican in the 80's and 90's. They lost my vote when the GOP upchucked Dubya as presidential candidate, followed by this orange disgusting bile AKA ConDon in NYC's 70's.

BTW, I'm more of a moderate and a centrist. The GOP has swung too far to the right from my perspective. The Democratic Party has swung too far to the left. As it stands, my Vote for Democratic Candidates is more of a vote against ConDon and his minions than it is a vote for Joe Biden. I hope for the day of a Centrist Party; a party which is fiscally conservative, socially liberal, considerate of the environment, etc.

As for California, I will take all it has to offer, good, bad, or indifferent. This is home.

Relax, dude!


I'm relax, "dude" ( is this California weed talk especially from a 60's old man? ) I'm not here to change your views or how you vote. You are from a liberal from California, it is what it is. Just exposing your hypocrisy 1 sided talk and you shouldn't throw stones when you live in a China glass house and your party has a long history of crap from slavery, jim crow, wars, millions of abortions of babies, globalism and selling out the working class for cheap labor with unlimited immigration of poor foreigners and sending them to China and the list is long.


But your problem is W and Trump when your party had LBJ, Clinton the rapist and his wife, a Mummy in Biden that has been in government since 1973 and has a awful record for every war since 1973, he wrote the crime bill that put large amounts of blacks and Latinos in prison (talk about racism) , bailed out wall street and supported NAFTA that sent Americans jobs to China for cheap labor while he and his family got rich with Kamala Harris who was Willie Brown's lover to start her political career and was an awful DA putting innocent people in prison in your state, your own state and crickets from you. She is Hillary with a tan which is worse. She is using her color and what is between her legs to get to more power and you drink the kool aid down there. What she did as a DA in your state should have been the end of her but here she is a Senator from your state and a VP candidate.



You say you are a moderate and a centrist but vote democrat? That party has gone to the far left and want socialism and more federal grab and more taxes for this country. Maybe you have been in California for too long and can't tell the difference.


You can be for the environment and not be for a big federal socialist government. That's like saying I want to help the poor so I have to be for big welfare, high taxes, big government and abortions on demand to help the poor. That's a myth and it has been tried in all over the world with failures. You open a can of worms with your bias 1 sided political opinions and I'm giving the other side of the coin.
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Old 09-27-2020, 11:25 AM
 
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Gawd you do not understand. The excess money that CA pays to the federal government is distributed by the federal government to the poor Republican states like TX. If you feel better getting your allowance from Mom although Dad had the job that earned it then fine.
You should have quit like 4 posts ago. Texas is not a poor state. It has the #2 best economy in the country and growing. Is this a California education or weed smoking?

California doesn't pay excess money in federal taxes. They pay the same federal rates like the rest of the country. The other taxes taken by the government of California from state tax, city tax, sales tax, gas tax, property tax and the other taxes to businesses that raises cost in the state stays in California. The problem in California like New York is the high taxes from the state that raises their cost of living and rent. It has nothing to do with federal taxes which the bottom 50% of the taxpayers pay little or don't pay at all.

Just quit. I asked you for the source for your clueless and bias opinion and you keep ignoring me and keep doubling down. Texas is not a poor state. Texas has a bigger economy than New York #3 and Florida #4 and those 2 states have very strong economies. If Texas is poor than the rest of the 48 states are poorer. How does the U.S. has the #1 economy in the world? by California paying federal taxes?
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Old 09-27-2020, 11:35 AM
 
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I'm relax, "dude" ( is this California weed talk especially from a 60's old man? ) I'm not here to change your views or how you vote. You are from a liberal from California, it is what it is. Just exposing your hypocrisy 1 sided talk and you shouldn't throw stones when you live in a China glass house and your party has a long history of crap from slavery, jim crow, wars, millions of abortions of babies, globalism and selling out the working class for cheap labor with unlimited immigration of poor foreigners and sending them to China and the list is long.


But your problem is W and Trump when your party had LBJ, Clinton the rapist and his wife, a Mummy in Biden that has been in government since 1973 and has a awful record for every war since 1973, he wrote the crime bill that put large amounts of blacks and Latinos in prison (talk about racism) , bailed out wall street and supported NAFTA that sent Americans jobs to China for cheap labor while he and his family got rich with Kamala Harris who was Willie Brown's lover to start her political career and was an awful DA putting innocent people in prison in your state, your own state and crickets from you. She is Hillary with a tan which is worse. She is using her color and what is between her legs to get to more power and you drink the kool aid down there. What she did as a DA in your state should have been the end of her but here she is a Senator from your state and a VP candidate.



You say you are a moderate and a centrist but vote democrat? That party has gone to the far left and want socialism and more federal grab and more taxes for this country. Maybe you have been in California for too long and can't tell the difference.


You can be for the environment and not be for a big federal socialist government. That's like saying I want to help the poor so I have to be for big welfare, high taxes, big government and abortions on demand to help the poor. That's a myth and it has been tried in all over the world with failures. You open a can of worms with your bias 1 sided political opinions and I'm giving the other side of the coin.
Glad you got that off your chest. Are you feeling better now? LOL

You have yourself a nice day

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Old 09-27-2020, 12:49 PM
 
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Glad you got that off your chest. Are you feeling better now? LOL

You have yourself a nice day

The feeling is mutual. This is about the inclusiveness you said . You have a nice day also.
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Old 09-27-2020, 12:52 PM
 
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Again, like Hawaii, I have come across Puerto Rican nationalists who believe that the Puerto Rican people do want independence and that the US is merely blocking it so that the US won't lose a territory to exploit.... if that is so, why doesn't Puerto Rico just ask for independence right now... why is that hard?

The Philippines asked for their independence and they got it, so what's preventing Hawaii, Guam and Puerto Rico from asking the same thing?
Puerto Rico doesn’t do too well WITH US money. They’d be sorely hurting without it.
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Old 09-27-2020, 01:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by igotswag Again, like Hawaii, I have come across Puerto Rican nationalists who believe that the Puerto Rican people do want independence and that the US is merely blocking it so that the US won't lose a territory to exploit.... if that is so, why doesn't Puerto Rico just ask for independence right now... why is that hard?

The Philippines asked for their independence and they got it, so what's preventing Hawaii, Guam and Puerto Rico from asking the same thing?

Puerto Rican nationalists? LMAO! They are less than 3% of the electorate. That's like asking the American Communist party or the Black Panther Party what the U.S. should be and that capitalism must go. Who cares about their silly opinions? They are less than 3% of the electorate in Puerto Rico and for over 100 years can't win a single town out of 78 in Puerto Rico elections, they always come in last place.. They don't represent the masses. The masses don't even trust them to run an hot dog stand but they sure are the loudest, pound their chests the hardest and wave the Puerto Rican flag in everybody's faces.

Puerto Rico isn't going to ask the U.S. for independence. You have a better shot at being the lead singer in Menudo and winning an Emmy than Puerto Rico being independent and that's 1 in a billion you joining the boy band. Puerto Rico has too much history with the U.S., they depend too much on feds and the U.S. economy and more Puerto Ricans live in the 50 states than Puerto Rico. They are all U.S. Citizens with full protection by the U.S. and they can't lose their citizenship against their will. But if the nationalists have a plan to ignore all that and bring a Chavista banana republic for the island then they are smoking too much weed or some strong stuff.
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Old 09-27-2020, 04:25 PM
 
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Texas is not a poor state. It has the #2 best economy in the country and growing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Econom...and%20Facebook.

Yep, California number 5 in the WORLD! Texas can't even beat out frigging Canada. Yep, Canadians are whooping yer butt! All hat, no cattle! LOL Maybe take an econ course or stick with your line dancing.
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Old 09-27-2020, 06:54 PM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Econom...and%20Facebook.

Yep, California number 5 in the WORLD! Texas can't even beat out frigging Canada. Yep, Canadians are whooping yer butt! All hat, no cattle! LOL Maybe take an econ course or stick with your line dancing.

wiki? I told you to quit like 4 posts ago and your posts gets childish by the post. Canada is a country not a state. Texas has the #2 best economy in the nation. That means they are a key part why the U.S. has the #1 economy in the world and history. Canada is like #10. India has a bigger economy than Canada.


Did you get your ask whopped in Texas or something? you live in California, your obsession with Texas shows and it's childish. You go from that California taxes goes to Texas (No source,lie ) then you say Texas is poor (no source, lie ) then you bring Canada, a country and want to compare it to a state. What's next compare NYC to Germany?
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