Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > U.S. Territories
 [Register]
U.S. Territories Puerto Rico, Guam, U.S. Virgin Islands, etc.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-16-2022, 05:19 PM
 
817 posts, read 634,317 times
Reputation: 1663

Advertisements

The mainland US is in crisis with rising rents/home costs, inflation, homelessness, and high costs of living in general. I personally know several people at my job thinking of moving to Puerto Rico for cheaper rents and lower cost of living. I myself have thought about saving up money and moving to the Northern Mariana Islands (Saipan) for the same reasons. I can rent a nice 2 bedroom apartment in Saipan for $500-$700 a month, such a thing is impossible nearly anywhere else in the US. I predict the U.S. territories will see a population influx from the mainland in the coming years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-17-2022, 11:57 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
32,694 posts, read 48,238,918 times
Reputation: 78578
And if they do, then those rents will go up to reflect the higher demand.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-17-2022, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Philly
10,227 posts, read 16,850,053 times
Reputation: 2973
Quote:
Originally Posted by NearFantastica View Post
The mainland US is in crisis with rising rents/home costs, inflation, homelessness, and high costs of living in general. I personally know several people at my job thinking of moving to Puerto Rico for cheaper rents and lower cost of living. I myself have thought about saving up money and moving to the Northern Mariana Islands (Saipan) for the same reasons. I can rent a nice 2 bedroom apartment in Saipan for $500-$700 a month, such a thing is impossible nearly anywhere else in the US. I predict the U.S. territories will see a population influx from the mainland in the coming years.
there are lots of places on the mainland that are not experiencing a crisis. I do think with remote work there is an opportunity for the territories to gain additional population through QOL where people can live in expensively but also in locations that simply don't exist on the mainland but still retaining their income.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-19-2022, 05:03 AM
 
1,888 posts, read 1,192,964 times
Reputation: 1783
Quote:
Originally Posted by pman View Post
there are lots of places on the mainland that are not experiencing a crisis. I do think with remote work there is an opportunity for the territories to gain additional population through QOL where people can live in expensively but also in locations that simply don't exist on the mainland but still retaining their income.
Yes but need reliable hi speed net and electricity too
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-19-2022, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Philly
10,227 posts, read 16,850,053 times
Reputation: 2973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stepfordct View Post
Yes but need reliable hi speed net and electricity too
I can't speak for the other territories but despite PR's problems, high speed internet is decent there, and for now, the price of a generator to fill in the gaps is manageable but I agree, other than providing an environment in which companies can succeed, fixing the state run energy problem is enormously important. they are losing customers as the cost of generating your own power declines, companies are starting to do just that...and so too those with the means to do so. it struck me that tesla has a prominent sales booth in the ponce mall which is not exactly the mall of san juan or plaza las americas. I wonder how much business they are doing there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-19-2022, 09:22 AM
 
10,864 posts, read 6,530,222 times
Reputation: 7964
standard of living would be lower ,but cost of living could be higher if you expect to receive the same amenities like no interruption to your electricity,phone,cable,PR airport has only one flight /daily .
goods brought in could cost you more-coffee,ice cream,pizza,pies,are they like Hawaii.under the Jones Act,ships must carry US flag and US staff,thats why toothpaste,frozen foods and other consumer goods from mainland cost more in HAWAII.
IF YOU want some work to be done by locals,do they have the same skills and promptness?do they have outdated skills and tools?
you will be paying more for gasoline,but you wont be driving much,but the heat?your A/C bills would be much higher.
also those places like PR,Guam have hurricanes and few places to hide
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-19-2022, 03:03 PM
 
817 posts, read 634,317 times
Reputation: 1663
Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo101 View Post
How about Mexico,some have moved to medium size inland MEXICO town which have lower rent,public transportation and no drug cartel?
My friend moved to Ensenada, Mexico from LA 6 years ago, she seems to enjoy it
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-22-2022, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Philly
10,227 posts, read 16,850,053 times
Reputation: 2973
Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo101 View Post
standard of living would be lower ,but cost of living could be higher if you expect to receive the same amenities like no interruption to your electricity,phone,cable,PR airport has only one flight /daily .
goods brought in could cost you more-coffee,ice cream,pizza,pies,are they like Hawaii.under the Jones Act,ships must carry US flag and US staff,thats why toothpaste,frozen foods and other consumer goods from mainland cost more in HAWAII.
IF YOU want some work to be done by locals,do they have the same skills and promptness?do they have outdated skills and tools?
you will be paying more for gasoline,but you wont be driving much,but the heat?your A/C bills would be much higher.
also those places like PR,Guam have hurricanes and few places to hide
coffee is produced in Puerto Rico and have not found it more expensive there. electricity is more expensive than most of the US, similar to NewEngland (which has the same issue, no natural resources and no pipeline so it has to import from trinidad and other places). While Jones Act does limit choices and increases expense, from that I can tell, San Juan port modernization has helped drive down cost of goods sold. of course, PR and the USVI are simply much closer to the mainland US so any of those issues may be magnified over longer distances.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-22-2022, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
30,696 posts, read 18,337,735 times
Reputation: 34565
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stepfordct View Post
Yes but need reliable hi speed net and electricity too
True. I was surprised at how many parts of the mainland do not have high speed internet at levels that I expect. I now understand why Elon Musk's StarLink is a gamechanger for many.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-22-2022, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
30,696 posts, read 18,337,735 times
Reputation: 34565
Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo101 View Post
How about Mexico,some have moved to medium size inland MEXICO town which have lower rent,public transportation and no drug cartel?
Does such an area truly exist?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > U.S. Territories
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top