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Old 05-08-2012, 01:34 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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The problem is that both the pro-statehood and pro-commonwealth supporters have unrealistic beliefs of what would happen in a State of Puerto Rico. The statehooders think it would be utopia and the commonwealthers think the Spanish language and Puerto Ricanness would suddenly vanish and Puerto Rico would be transformed into Iowa and gobbled up by Americana. Im still trying to figure out which set of beliefs is more absurd; right now im going with the PPD fearmongering.

Reality is that neither are right. Yes, things will change but it won't be utopia and it certainly won't lead to the end of the Spanish language and Puerto Rican culture (simply because both of those are protected by the 10th Amendment guaranteeing state sovereignty).
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:04 PM
 
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Have you spent much time there?
I have. Been there over a dozen times... spent weeks at a time there. Never experienced many infrastructure issues
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Scranton
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Reality is that neither are right. Yes, things will change but it won't be utopia and it certainly won't lead to the end of the Spanish language and Puerto Rican culture (simply because both of those are protected by the 10th Amendment guaranteeing state sovereignty).
Sadly, the 10th amendment is not what it used to be. Congress (both the GOP and the Democrats) has abused the commerce clause to push everything, from "Gun-free school zones", "No Child Left Behind", and Obamacare. None of that stuff belonged to the federal government to begin with. The power in the USA is supposed to rest on the states, but each year that goes by, more and more power is being centralized in Washington. That's not a good thing.
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:15 PM
 
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I have. Been there over a dozen times... spent weeks at a time there. Never experienced many infrastructure issues
Are you sure you have been to Puerto Rico, the Caribbean island?

Never had the internet go down for days? Never had the power go down for hours?
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:36 PM
 
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I have. Been there over a dozen times... spent weeks at a time there. Never experienced many infrastructure issues
Well then your experience was a lot different than my three plus years living there. Our power, internet and even water were frequently going off.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Puerto Rico
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Well then your experience was a lot different than my three plus years living there. Our power, internet and even water were frequently going off.
It depends on the area where you live. Here in Country Club electricity hardly goes out (maybe once every two weeks and always for less than an hour). I've never run out of water, and only once my internet went bust, and that was because a splitter burned from a spike.

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Forgot to add. That I know of places that have trouble with everything, specially up on the mountains. A little breeze and you stop having electricity.
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Old 05-18-2012, 03:27 PM
 
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Is there any chance of just giving it back to Spain again, or maybe to one of the larger Spanish speaking countries like Mexico? I am sure Mexico would find it prestigious to have it's own overseas territory. Would the US go along with that? It's obvious it can't survive on it's own, and this way it can keep it's Spanish language and culture.

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Old 05-18-2012, 05:05 PM
 
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Is there any chance of just giving it back to Spain again, or maybe to one of the larger Spanish speaking countries like Mexico? I am sure Mexico would find it prestigious to have it's own overseas territory. Would the US go along with that? It's obvious it can't survive on it's own, and this way it can keep it's Spanish language and culture.
Spain's last colony (the Spanish Sahara) gained independence in 1976.

The Canary Islands, the Balearic Islands, and the Moroccan enclaves of Ceuta and Melillia are direct components of the Kingdom of Spain.
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Old 05-18-2012, 05:21 PM
 
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Spain's last colony (the Spanish Sahara) gained independence in 1976.

The Canary Islands, the Balearic Islands, and the Moroccan enclaves of Ceuta and Melillia are direct components of the Kingdom of Spain.
Why does that prevent them taking it back, if P. Rico and the US agree to it? It can't survive on it's own so it will have to be under someone.
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:49 PM
 
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Why does that prevent them taking it back, if P. Rico and the US agree to it? It can't survive on it's own so it will have to be under someone.
Why doesn't Alaska go back to being a Russian colony?
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