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Old 06-03-2009, 08:29 PM
Location: Puerto Rico
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I agree with SobroGuy.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:40 PM
Location: Philly
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Originally Posted by SobroGuy View Post
I don't doubt that the goal is 35,000, but the lawsuits will ultimately drag it on forever, and probably the backlash from him actually trying to do the right thing and fix the problems will lead to him being ousted in 4 years. The new governor will swiftly rehire lots of people and things will go on as usual..that's just the way it goes. It is less about being jaded and more about being a realist. However, it is entirely possible that real change is possible by Fortuno, but the reality is at most he will be there 8 years, after that the new party will come in and undue what he has done and bring it all back. Why? Because until the status is changed, every party comes into power with their own agenda...one moves PR closer to statehood, and the two others move it away from statehood...so they just keep undoing whatever the previous adminstration did! It's a cycle that will never end and is what ultimately keeps PR from moving forward. Until the status is decided once and for all, the island will always be in this chaotic and depressed limbo.
perhaps the point you missed is that we have no status problems in Philadelphia but still can't get a handle on our public employment costs. one mayor improves things and the next undoes them. when you consider such things realism you are indeed jaded.

Once-prominent Philadelphia fund-raiser Robert M. Feldman has agreed to plead guilty to a misdemeanor campaign violation, in a federal case that ensnared the governor of Puerto Rico but yielded convictions only of some of his associates.

Feldman admitted in court papers that he helped conceal the source of $6,000 in campaign funds for the unsuccessful 2008 reelection campaign of Gov. Aníbal Acevedo Vilá.
Feldman was reimbursed by Cándido Negrón Mella, a Delaware County dentist who had reached the limit on contributions to the campaign. Such "conduit" contributions violate federal election law. In return, prosecutors agreed to drop a felony case against Feldman that accused him and others of a much larger scheme: funneling more than $100,000 in illegal contributions to Acevedo Vilá in the hope of winning government deals.
Phila. man guilty in Puerto Rico politics case | Philadelphia Inquirer | 06/04/2009 (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/46890872.html - broken link)

you assume there will be money to hire them back
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Old 06-04-2009, 02:45 PM
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It is one thing to inept and incompetent, and PR has plenty of that which isn't helping. However, if you believe the government in Philadelphia is bad now, imagine if there were 3 parties there in control, one that wants to create independence for Philadelphia as it's own country,the other that wants to maintain it as a city within PA, and another that wants to remove it from PA and make it a part of NJ...how do you think the government would run there? Better? NO...it would be MUCH WORSE..that is not jaded..that is realistic. Not only do you have to contend with the usual shenanigans, buearacracy, incompetence, and characters in the government of PR, you ALSO have to deal with an even bigger issue of 3 groups fighting and pulling PR in a new direction entirely every 4 or 8 years, and undoing eveything the prior administrations did. This not only stagnates PR, it moves them steps back further in further in relation to the rest of the world. Until they choose 1 path, this cycle will never end. As for needing money to do anything, we have seen that you can simply print money for whatever it is you need...and PR is adept at begging for handouts...the money to hire again will be there..it is government after all.
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