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During that time it is also unlikely that there will be any appreciable development of the "jobs creation" programs that have been discussed in Washington as an alternative to expanded benefits. So expanding federal unemployment benefits will be the fastest, easiest -- albeit most expensive -- national "fix."
Public works could also help our economy by employing labor market participants with a work ethic.
In the same article linked above: "Democrats are as angry about how the deal was put together as they are about its substance. They see the White House as abandoning bipartisan talks with Republicans and Democrats to work out a deal just with Senate Republicans.
"[Vice President Joe Biden] basically said, 'Take it or leave it,'" Representative Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) said. "We left it. It's up to them." DeFazio was referring to a non-binding vote taken by the House Democrats in their caucus to reject the White House tax cut/unemployment extension plan.
The more I think about this the more unbelievable it is - a bill with overwhelming popular support scuttled by people who have been voted out of office. There's no way Pelosi can let that happen.
What it means is that anyone who is currently on unemployment or prematurely cut off before they received there total of 79 weeks, or new unemployment claimants will all have the next 13 months to exhaust or use as much unemployment insurance before it is again cut off for the third time. For instance, I have already been cut off my Tier2, with this new extension I will be able to finish out my Tier3&4 if necessary and still jobless. I then can go onto my state unemployment (EB) for an additional 20 weeks. EB is not a guarantee. It is based on your own state's unemployment rate. If it drops below a certain percentage, that is factored by last years unemployment rate and averages in past, then they notify you that you only have three weeks left and then it will be cut off. Hope this helps
I don't understand the timeframe for extending tiers.
For example I should be receiving my last check for tier 2 early February.
Under this new bill would I go on to tier 3 or would I have had to exhaust my tier before that date? I can't find dates online.
Does this mean the bill was not passed and will not go any further?
Personally I still think it will pass - the question is how far the House dems will go to express their displeasure. I'm assuming Obama will smack a little common sense into them. But the wildcard is the 65 or so lame duck dem seats - who knows what they'll do?
I don't understand the timeframe for extending tiers.
For example I should be receiving my last check for tier 2 early February.
Under this new bill would I go on to tier 3 or would I have had to exhaust my tier before that date? I can't find dates online.
The proposed new legislation extends the eligibility for moving from state benefits, to the tiers, to EB to December 31, 2011 (we think).
If the legislation is enacted as it is written now, you should be able to move to Tier 3 without a problem.
There are no dates online because nothing has been finalized - not even the 13 months. The House and Senate will draft the final language based on the deal that is finally struck. At present, no one knows for sure what that deal will be.
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Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has said that the legislation for the tax cut/federal unemployment extension plan has been drafted, and that he expects the Senate to vote on the bill tomorrow, Friday.
I don't understand the timeframe for extending tiers.
For example I should be receiving my last check for tier 2 early February.
Under this new bill would I go on to tier 3 or would I have had to exhaust my tier before that date? I can't find dates online.
Before
11/21/10 deadline to start Tier I
11/28/10 deadline to move to NEXT Tier Now
We wait for new deadlines as the tomfoolery in congress continues. After
??/??/11 deadline to start Tier I
??/??/11 deadline to move to NEXT Tier
It's not even a bill yet, and no date has been set. You must exhaust a Tier by a certain date in order to move to the next Tier as always. That date would be a Saturday, and a new Tier would start on a Sunday. Do not go by your certification date or the date you receive your payment to figure this out.
Would anyone object to permanent forms of tax cuts for the wealthy, if a person could apply for unemployment compensation, simply for being unemployed; especially if that wage meets or beats federal poverty guidelines?
The more I think about this the more unbelievable it is - a bill with overwhelming popular support scuttled by people who have been voted out of office. There's no way Pelosi can let that happen.
The proposal does not have overwhelming popular support. That's silly.
I assume you're referring to this Gallup poll when you say the proposal has overwhelming support:
show pretty clearly that when given a choice in the matter, most people don't want to extend the tax cuts for higher incomes. That shoots down any theory of "overwhelming" support for this proposal. At best it's grudging support or, more likely, just uninformed support.
For the record, here's the most recent poll I could find that asked more detailed questions about extending unemployment:
But the questions seem very leading and I can't even find the full poll results anywhere, so I don't put much stock in it.
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