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Old 04-06-2011, 07:39 PM
 
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Is PA also stopping EB ?
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Ocean County, NJ
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Is PA also stopping EB ?
i dont know if they provided the fix for their state law but they are supposed to stop paying out based on NELPs chart in July but actually the payments dont stop until mid august
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:24 PM
 
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do you have a link to the chart? Thanks!
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:14 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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the bill would cover most of, if not the rest of the year. Again this is only for EB funding, not any new weeks.
This is not for EB funding -- it is for eligibility for EB for the state.

Regardless of whether the 100% federal funding of EB is extended past this year, if New Jersey changes the state's 110% unemployment rate trigger to three years then the state is obligated under its own law to provide EB at the original 50% federal/50% state funding split after the 100% federal funding expires -- as long as NJ meets both EB unemployment rate triggers: the three-year 110% trigger, and the three-month 6%/8.5% trigger. And that will cost the state money in 2012.
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:36 PM
 
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Which as of 2011 is federally funded by the government. Yes the law needs to be changed to provide a fix for the trigger law to remain on EB.
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Old 04-06-2011, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Ocean County, NJ
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IMO, I think he will. Just because he hasn't mentioned it since receiving the bill this week means nothing good or bad. He has plenty of time to sign it into law.
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Old 04-07-2011, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Ocean County, NJ
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Just going off numbers I've found,

Unemployment rates for 2009
January 7.5
February 8.0
March 8.4
April 8.8
May 9.0

2011
Jan 9.1
Feb 9.1
Mar 9.2
April (released on 4/19)

you add the 10% to the 2009 3 month average and compare it with the 3 month average in 2011, right?


Someone please tell me if I'm doing this wrong!

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Old 04-07-2011, 10:53 AM
 
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Just going off numbers I've found,

Unemployment rates for 2009
January 7.5
February 8.0
March 8.4
April 8.8
May 9.0

2011
Jan 9.1
Feb 9.1
Mar 9.2
April (released on 4/19)

you add the 10% to the 2009 3 month average and compare it with the 3 month average in 2011, right?


Someone please tell me if I'm doing this wrong!
sounds right to me..you Know i wish NJ would update their unemployment website about all this. They only mention the 6.5, and 8 % triggers For EB, High EB but mention nothing about this 110% requirement. Many claimants may be wrongly deceived that This Would BE Available to them, when in actuality, they may not receive It
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Ocean County, NJ
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This is not for EB funding -- it is for eligibility for EB for the state.

And that will cost the state money in 2012.
No it won't, as in 2012, the three year look back takes them to 2009.
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Old 04-07-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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No it won't, as in 2012, the three year look back takes them to 2009.
Once again, incorrect. You are confusing the state's eligibility for EB -- with the federal government's commitment to pay 100% of the cost of EB. The three-year look back may extend eligibility for the benefits into 2012 -- but the three-year look back does not extend 100% federal funding into 2012.

Please take the time to read the full explanation here before continuing to argue a position that is factually without substance.

The source of the funding
is legislated separately from a state's eligibility for EB benefits. The 110% eligibility being discussed in this thread DOES NOT affect the coming expiration of the 100% federal funding for EB. Source of funding and eligibility are
TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.


FYI, this is how EB funding works:
(1) EB is 100% federally funded through the end of December 2011.

(2) Beginning in January 2012, EB funding now reverts to 50% federal/50% state funding.

(3) Without 100% federal funding, most states will cancel EB -- whether or not the states meet the longer and/or shorter term requirements.

(3) Unlike many states, New Jersey cannot cancel EB when 100% federal funding ceases. New Jersey is required by state law to provide EB whenever the state meets the two requirements for EB (longer and shorter term). That means the state must -- by state law -- provide EB even if it is only funded 50% by the federal government.

(4) If New Jersey amends the criteria for longer term eligibility to three years, it will continue to be eligible for EB into 2012 -- meaning it MUST then provide EB after 100% federal funding ceases to exit. That, in turn, means the state MUST pay then 50% of the funding.

I cannot explain this any more simply.
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