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It looks like regardless of when I start EB it will cut off on Jan 8th, 2012. (This is different from TX which states that I just have to start EB before the end of 2011 in order to get the full 20 weeks it provides.
Where is this stated on the TX website? Last year, TX stopped EB payments on December 4, 2010, FOUR DAYS after the expiration date of the unemployment legislation on November 30, 2010. If the TX website now states EB will continue even if legislation is not extended, it is WRONG. CA also posted similarly misleading statements on its website last year. They were WRONG, as well.
Eligibility dates have nothing to do with cutoff dates as they relate to EB payments. Even the UE reps don't understand the difference.
EUC tiers are paid in full provided eligibility dates are met.
EB payments end when federal funding ends - or within a few weeks thereof, depending on state law. At present, federal funding ends on December 31, 2011. Some states mandate payment of EB. TX is NOT one of those states.
Many states FAIL to mention on their websites that although the eligibility date for EB is December 31, 2011, the cutoff date for ANY EB payment falls shortly thereafter.
TX will NOT pay EB much beyond December 31, 2011 without federal help. For that to happen, Congress needs to extend the unemployment legislation which expires December 31, 2011.
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For those of you that have been following the NY laws closely, does it look like maybe they will extend the cut off date for EB?
NY would have to pass a state law mandating payment of EB 100% with state money. Not going to happen. Majority of states in the country are in serious trouble due to reduced tax revenues (because of high unemployment) and increased unemployment payments and are looking to cut their expenses any way they can. TX also has no such law.
If it isn't 100% federal money, EB will not be paid in most states. Even in some of the mandated EB states, the lookback period, which also expires December 31, may still prevent payment of EB.
At the moment, this is a gray area. The only state I'm reasonably certain will continue EB beyond December 31, 2011 is NJ, which states on its website it will pay EB provided its unemployment rate is at least 6%. Most of the other mandated states may be caught in the lookback trap.
Can someone tell me whether eb is based on the state you currently reside in or rather the state you collect in? For example I live in Florida but collect in ny. Florida's ui rate is currently 9.9%. Thanks!
Can someone tell me whether eb is based on the state you currently reside in or rather the state you collect in? For example I live in Florida but collect in ny. Florida's ui rate is currently 9.9%. Thanks!
Thank you. Strange, about 3 years back after shutting down my companies in california, I collected ui. When emergency benefits came along it was based on the state I was living, not collecting in at the time. Which was florida. Cali perhaps does it differently.
Thank you. Strange, about 3 years back after shutting down my companies in california, I collected ui. When emergency benefits came along it was based on the state I was living, not collecting in at the time. Which was florida. Cali perhaps does it differently.
Did you have FL earnings? CA would shed you from its rolls as soon as you have eligible earnings in FL.
California was 3 years ago. I'm no longer claiming Ca. I merely made the point that, back then Ca based receiving the emergency benefits on the state I was living in. I was in Fl and since Fl wasn't high enough at the time, I was required to either 1. move back to Ca to continue collecting EB OR move to a state with an unemployment rate that is high enough to justify those additional emergency benefits. So I moved to NY, which is why I worked for some time there and then was laid off (along with half the office due to the economy) and which is also why I started collecting in NY. But I've since moved to Florida and again, the EB came up. But now I'm being told by members on this site that NY will base it off NY's unemployment rate and NOT the state you reside in. In other words, the same situation, just different times and the two states are approaching it differently. Hmmm, as if they're conveniently selecting the road that keeps more money in their own pockets... (like one additional person is going to change anything??? They need to be changed from the inside out and stop indebting us and future generations!!!)
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Did you have FL earnings? CA would shed you from its rolls as soon as you have eligible earnings in FL.
California was 3 years ago. I'm no longer claiming Ca.
I merely made the point that, back then Ca based receiving the emergency benefits on the state I was living in.
I was in Fl and since Fl wasn't high enough at the time, I was required to either
1. move back to Ca to continue collecting EB OR
2. move to a state with an unemployment rate that is high enough to justify those additional emergency benefits.
You are conflating Emergency Unemployment Compensation Benefit (EUC) rules with Extended Benefit (EB) rules.
If you were in fact collecting EUC benefits, it wouldn't have mattered where you lived - your claiming state UE rates prevail. See FAQS #9: //www.city-data.com/forum/22370378-post2.html
Your eligibility to receive California Extended Benefits (EB) (aka Fed-Ed) required that both your resident and claiming state be paying EB. CA could not pay you EB if FL was not also paying EB.
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So I moved to NY, which is why I worked for some time there and then was laid off (along with half the office due to the economy) and which is also why I started collecting in NY.
By living in NY, you met EB (not EUC) parameters that both claiming and resident state must be paying EB, so you were then able to collect California Fed-Ed at the CA benefit rate until you found work in NY.
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But I've since moved to Florida and again, the EB came up.
But now I'm being told by members on this site that NY will base it off NY's unemployment rate and NOT the state you reside in.
Your weekly benefit rate is determined by the benefits paid in the state in which you file your claim.
Your ability to collect EUC benefits depends on the claiming state's UE rate triggers.
Your resident state UE rate only applies when you have exhausted state and EUC benefits and need to collect EB. Then, BOTH states' UE rates matter as both states must be paying EB in order for you to collect.
If your claim originates in NY, you are paid by NY at the NY benefit rate and NY UE rates determine NY's ability to pay EUC (after state benefits are exhausted). When EUC is exhausted, you will be able to collect EB - IF both NY and FL are paying EB. Nothing has changed.
Both states must be paying EB should you get that far in your claim for you to collect. Which is unlikely, as NELP projects NY will trigger off EB in May and FL will trigger off in June. http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_...h_full_600.jpg
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Hmmm, as if they're conveniently selecting the road that keeps more money in their own pockets... (like one additional person is going to change anything??? They need to be changed from the inside out and stop indebting us and future generations!!!)
This is totally NOT a correct conclusion. There is no inconsistency whatsoever. EUC and EB benefits have always been paid under the same rules when you are claiming from one state and living in another.
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Question regarding EB?
