Florida law results in more denials of unemployment benefits (payment, record, report)

[marilyn220]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

It shouldn't be a surprise.

FL is one of the most "anti-employee" states in the nation.

The Gov. also wanted to drug test the unemployed and cut benefits down to less than 26 weeks.

Floridians are getting exactly what they deserve for voting this governor into office.

I don't feel bad for them at all.

[yrsayngling]

Originally Posted by marilyn220

Floridians are getting exactly what they deserve for voting this governor into office.

I don't feel bad for them at all.

Too bad the people who voted for him are probably not the ones navigating a draconian unemployment system.

[annerk]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

It shouldn't be a surprise.

FL is one of the most "anti-employee" states in the nation.

The Gov. also wanted to drug test the unemployed and cut benefits down to less than 26 weeks.

Why shouldn't we drug test them? Most companies drug test employees (we're required to as part of our Federally funded contracts), why should the unemployed be exempt?

[annerk]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

FL also pays out one of the lowest claims in the nation at $275 as a max.

Not a good state to work in. People are laid off and not even given any severance.

If many employers had to pay severance, they'd have to lay off even more people. While severance is certainly a nice touch, when a company is teetering on bankruptcy and trying to keep as many people employed as possible, it's ridiculous to assume that they would be able to hand out severance checks.

[annerk]

Originally Posted by sas0814

I agree Florida is not a good state to work in, it's actually horrible. However, if you're unemployed I can't see why it's too much to apply to 5 jobs a week. That's not that much work. If you don't get hired it's not held against you, they're just saying you have to apply, and i'm sure you can keep applying to the same jobs over and over. Now the thing about only using a computer sucks, because some can't afford internet.

Those without Internet can use a computer in a public library for free. Many churches/religious organizations and other organizations such as Goodwill and the United Way will also allow people to use computers for job searches.

And I agree, five jobs is nothing. If they don't want to be bothered seeking work, I don't want to be bothered paying for their unemployment.

Geez, what a bunch of lazy turds. When I was unemployed in 2009 I sent out over 100 resumes a week.

[annerk]

Originally Posted by Chyvan

I don't care for the 5 job/week search requirement.

I start with the premise that some of these people worked at the same place for 20+ years. They lost their careers, livelihoods, and idenities. The recipiency rate in FL is 19.3% meaning that only about 1 in 5 unemployed are actually getting benefits, and at $275/wk, it's a pittance to a former salary. I don't buy the fact these people are draining the state budget or abusing a program, but rather the state reduced SUTA taxes during the "good times," and are now trying to punish the unemployed for the state's short sightedness.

Oh cry me a river. I lost my job in 2009, applying for over 100 jobs a week. Finding a job became my f/t job. Anyone who can't apply for five jobs in a week must be brain dead. If you don't have some sort of marketable skills after 20 years in the work place you are waste of skin.

There is just NO way these 5 jobs claimants are applying for could be for suitable work, and are therefore being deprived of that right that comes from the Federal conformity requirments. There just aren't that many contacts per week for someone of a certain calibre. They are simply going through the motions.

Again cry me a river. Aside from a very few super specialized lines of work, almost everyone can take their skills and apply them towards a different field. No one is entitled to the exact same job for the exact same pay. They need to find suitable work. That's a pretty broad statement.

Then the other downside is after a claimant starts applying for jobs below their capabilities, and then still don't get calls, or interviews, or even not get the job after an interview because there are just so many out of work. Then the claimant is going to go down the selfesteem slide, and that starts to show in body language, and just dooms them. Besides that, if those collecting are allowed to be picky choosy, it reduces the competion that the other 80% of the noncollecting unemployed face.

Again, cry me a freaking river.

The requirements for a work search should be based on what does a reasonable person do when they want to change jobs. That reasonable person doesn't apply for just any job, but rather for the "right" jobs.

That's absurd. They should apply for and accept any suitable job, not any job they think isn't below them and they feel like doing.

The employer that caused the claimant's unemployment is supposed to pay that cost for benefits, and if the employer doesn't like paying the cost, they need to make better hiring and management decisions instead of whining and lobbying to make it even tougher on the already disadvantaged.

Which will make it even tougher to get hired. Didn't think about that, did you?

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by annerk

If many employers had to pay severance, they'd have to lay off even more people. While severance is certainly a nice touch, when a company is teetering on bankruptcy and trying to keep as many people employed as possible, it's ridiculous to assume that they would be able to hand out severance checks.

Please, FL is so far behind most of the country in education and worker's rights.

It has nothing to do with bankrupt companies. You see on the news all the time with people being let go with no notice and no severance and it has nothing to do with the doors closing.

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by marilyn220

Floridians are getting exactly what they deserve for voting this governor into office.

I don't feel bad for them at all.

A lot of people in FL now regret voting for him. Scott was involved in the largest Medicare fraud in US history, and the dummies in FL(and the state is loaded with them) voted for him anyway.

He knew exactly what state to run in.

[Ariadne22]

Florida is a low-tax state. Low taxes translates to minimal/very poor social services, generally. Ironically, many of the low tax/low cost-of-living states have the highest rates of unemployment.

Ranking:
42 - Georgia - 9.4%
43 - South Carolina - 9.6%
45 - Florida - 9.9%
47 - Mississippi - 10.4%
47 - North Carolina - 10.4%

Mississippi won't even pay 100% federally funded Extended Benefits.

Bottom of the list, of course, in UE rates are Nevada and CA, whose economic/population dynamics are quite different than those of MI, FL, etc.

http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

[TRC2k11]

Originally Posted by Ariadne22

Florida is a low-tax state. Low taxes translates to minimal/very poor social services, generally. Ironically, many of the low tax/low cost-of-living states have the highest rates of unemployment.


http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

That's why I don't miss Georgia.

I see Washington is middle of the road on that list... the lack of an income tax is made up somewhat by a higher sales tax. The cost of living is higher as well...

I can see how South Dakota's unemployment is so low... on my move out here last year I stopped at a Wal-mart outside of Sioux Falls... and every register was manned at 11am on a Wednesday. To date that is the first and only time I've ever seen that happen. A far cry from walking in and seeing 3 registers open with 60 people in line.