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This is the first time I became unemployed. Up to this point, I have paid a lot in taxes until I lost my job end of last year. It's been about a year since I've been getting unemployment benefits and I recently received a "notice of unemployment insurance award" with the weekly benefit award with the claim ending date displayed as one year from today in 2014. Is this a valid letter? If not, how long do I have until unemployment runs out through california and fed?
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10-29-2013, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by firsttimeunemployed
until I lost my job end of last year. It's been about a year since I've been getting unemployment benefits
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You say you lost your job end of last year - which means December 2012. You also say you've been collecting unemployment benefits for a year - but this is almost November 2013, less than ten months from December 2012. So, which is it? Did you lose your job in October/November 2012, or December 2012? EXACT DATES matter.
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Originally Posted by firsttimeunemployed
I recently received a "notice of unemployment insurance award" with the weekly benefit award with the claim ending date displayed as one year from today in 2014. Is this a valid letter? If not, how long do I have until unemployment runs out through california and fed?
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This may or may not be a valid claim - IF your claim actually began in October of 2012 - and NOT at the end of last year (December 2012) - and IF you have worked during the time you've been collecting benefits.
What are the exact beginning and end dates of your 2012 claim?
Last edited by Ariadne22; 10-29-2013 at 05:30 PM..
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10-29-2013, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ariadne22
You say you lost your job end of last year - which means December 2012. You also say you've been collecting unemployment benefits for a year - but this is almost November 2012, less than ten months from December 2012. So, which is it? Did you lose your job in October/November 2012, or December 2012? EXACT DATES matter.
This may or may not be a valid claim - IF your claim actually began in October of 2012 - and NOT at the end of last year (December 2012) - and IF you have worked during the time you've been collecting benefits.
What are the exact beginning and end dates of your 2012 claim?
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I lost my job October 2012 I haven't worked at all since then. Kept going on interviews but was not able to get the offer. My exact beginning claim date is 10/13/2013 and claim ending date is 10/11/2014. Is it even possible to get unemployment benefits until 10/2014? I thought I only got benefits for 1.5 years max.
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10-29-2013, 05:49 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by firsttimeunemployed
I lost my job October 2012 I haven't worked at all since then. Kept going on interviews but was not able to get the offer. My exact beginning claim date is 10/13/2013 and claim ending date is 10/11/2014. Is it even possible to get unemployment benefits until 10/2014? I thought I only got benefits for 1.5 years max.
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I was asking about your earlier claim, not the probably invalid claim notice you just got. Yes, if you have more than one claim, it is possible to collect longer than CA's present 63 weeks.
If you had a full 26-week claim, your 2012 claim is eligible for:
26 wks State Benefits
14 wks EUC Tier 1
14 wks EUC Tier 2
09 wks EUC Tier 3
Under current legislation, all federal benefit payments end December 28, 2013.
Through Oct. 12, you collected 51 weeks' benefits, out of the potential 63 available to you.
Which means you have 12 weeks' benefits remaining beginning week ending 10/19, and can collect 11 of those 12 weeks by December 28, 2013. If Congress extends the legislation, you will collect that last remaining week in 2014.
Now, if by some chance CA's computers have established a valid new claim for you, you will begin those benefits and then revert to unused EUC from the earlier claim, legislation permitting.
What is the monetary determination and WBA of this 'new' 2013 claim? What is the WBA of the 2012 claim?
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11-15-2013, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ariadne22
Now, if by some chance CA's computers have established a valid new claim for you, you will begin those benefits and then revert to unused EUC from the earlier claim, legislation permitting.
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This is interesting. How might a valid new claim get established?
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11-15-2013, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly88
This is interesting. How might a valid new claim get established?
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By being monetarily eligible (earning the required amount of money during the base period or alternate base period), and having a qualifying separation issue, and being able & available.
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11-15-2013, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chyvan
By being monetarily eligible (earning the required amount of money during the base period or alternate base period), and having a qualifying separation issue, and being able & available.
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But aren't Californians now limited to 63 weeks max of unemployment? This is where I'm not sure how a new claim could be established, as this person has been collecting unemployment for roughly 1 year already.
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11-15-2013, 09:46 PM
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Because many people's base periods exclude between 1 quarter and 1 day to 1 day short of 2 quarters. When those people work even a short while, the lag (unused) earnings plus the little amount from new work can create eligibility for a new claim that can be nearly as good as their first.
Then instead of being capped at 63 weeks, they get 52 weeks from the first claim plus EUC, then a new 26 claim, and then they can go back on to EUC from the first claim and finish it off, and then if the timing works out, can collect the remaining EUC from the 2nd claim.
However those days are numbered if EUC comes to a grinding halt at the end of the year.
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11-15-2013, 09:54 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Grizzly88
But aren't Californians now limited to 63 weeks max of unemployment? This is where I'm not sure how a new claim could be established, as this person has been collecting unemployment for roughly 1 year already.
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CA has an anomaly in its unemployment law which will allow LAG earnings alone to establish new claim eligibility at the bye. Essentially, one needs to earn $1,300 the same week one applies for unemployment, even though those earnings originate with the former employer. No other state will allow a second new claim against the first employer without claimant having worked after termination. Don't worry about this. It's a CA peculiarity.
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11-15-2013, 09:59 PM
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Got it. Thanks to both of you for clarifying.
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