Getting a Part-time Job while receiving unemployment benefits? (get, collect, work)

[Braunwyn]

Originally Posted by hnsq

I just think the way the economy is, unemployment benefits are not the smartest thing to pay people. If you know you can receive unemployment, why make a greater effort to look for a job? I realize I pay for it with every paycheck I get, but on principle I simply don't agree. I find it a little irresponsible to take payouts when the country is in as much debt as it is and the economy is going donwhill at the rate it is. I think even an $8/hr job at wal-mart is contributing something to society, and that alone is worth it. The economic situation isn't something the government isn't going to magically fix for us, it will turn around when people take responsibility for their own actions and try to give something back instead of just trying to get the most money they can on a day-to-day basis.

In cases like my mother, who is 68 years old, she has certainly contributed to society in the way of taxes. As stated, she started out as a 'soda-jerk' back when she was a teen. She's been paying taxes, SS, and unemployment benefits for 53 years. Heck, she has every right to retire but inflation is so high that it's just not possible. She was in her last job for 8 years and the place was shut down. It would be ridiculous for her to give up 450/wk (of her money) for a 40 hour work week at $8/hr.

And it's not as if she hasn't been looking for a job, she certainly has. They're just hard to come by these days, especially for senior citizens. Seniors are in a precarious position.

[hnsq]

Originally Posted by JTGJR

Yep, fair enough. And, while I'm on the phone, I'll tell SSI that I'll also donate my social security when it comes time, since all of the money I've put into that can be used by someone else. Oh yeah, and I'll tell my life insurance company, that I've been kidding all of these years. I really want them to keep the money that I've given them for the past 35-years. I'm sure they'll put it to better use than my wife or children can.

What does working at Walmart for any amount of money have to do with contributing to society? Unemployment benefits are there for this precise purpose- "the way the economy is." A very small portion of the people on this forum WANT to be unemployed and it has nothing to do with "taking responsibility for their own actions." You are absolutely correct that people should take responsibility for their actions, but to tie this to being laid off and suggest that one should not make use of the benefits that they have, literally, paid for and earned is naive at best.

It should also be noted that all of the people on this forum are and have been looking for a new job. And many haven't been able to find a job with the McDonald's and Walmarts of the world.

I don't include social security in my retirement plans...I am pretty sure it is going to fall apart in the next few years anyway. Everything I do at work is tailored towards making myself attractive to the next company I might work for. Someone once told me the only real job security is being better than your co-workers at what you do...I personally think if I take that to heart I will never have to worry about a job. What I said are just my personal views, I know you might not agree...take them or leave them.

[Jackyfrost01]

Originally Posted by hnsq

I don't include social security in my retirement plans...I am pretty sure it is going to fall apart in the next few years anyway. Everything I do at work is tailored towards making myself attractive to the next company I might work for. Someone once told me the only real job security is being better than your co-workers at what you do...I personally think if I take that to heart I will never have to worry about a job. What I said are just my personal views, I know you might not agree...take them or leave them.

That only works as long as your company is doing alrite financially. If they need to do labor cuts, it may not matter how good you are if they need to protect themselves financially.

[Jesse69]

It don't matter how good you are too if they don't like you as a person, or if you don't fit their culture!

[hnsq]

Originally Posted by Jesse69

It don't matter how good you are too if they don't like you as a person, or if you don't fit their culture!

"Playing the game" a little goes a long way. If your boss doesn't like you as a person, you aren't doing the best you can at your job. I would suggest reading 'How to win Friends and Influence People'. Great book on this.

[Jackyfrost01]

Originally Posted by hnsq

"Playing the game" a little goes a long way. If your boss doesn't like you as a person, you aren't doing the best you can at your job. I would suggest reading 'How to win Friends and Influence People'. Great book on this.

If you cant relax and be yourself at work, it just isn't going to work out. Period.

You can read a book or just do the high school thing and play along with the status quo, and BS everyone into thinking your "this type of person". But that gonna get old.

[hnsq]

Originally Posted by Jackyfrost01

If you cant relax and be yourself at work, it just isn't going to work out. Period.

You can read a book or just do the high school thing and play along with the status quo, and BS everyone into thinking your "this type of person". But that gonna get old.

You can think whatever you want..."playing the game" got me from an unknown person applying to a fortune 500 company (no family ties, didn't know anyone at the company) to having a VP not let anyone else interview for my position...And this was in the current economy (hired less than a year ago). I like progressing in my career, and while I am completely honest in everything I do, I will do what I can to get a promotion as well.

You can call it 'high school BS' if you want, but it DOES work.

I am not trying to be harsh, but I want to make myself attractive to employers, and only 50% of why someone is hired is their qualifications, the rest is personality, work ethic, seeing if you 'click' with the group you apply to join. Doesn't it makes sense to train yourself to be the most attractive candidate in all of these fields?

[Jackyfrost01]

lol cool. I just find it akin to acting and a bit of lying. Your allowing people to get to know someone your pretending to be.

But its cool that it works for you. I couldn't keep up that charade for too long (at least in real life, online is different, cuz you don't really know anyone on here and never see them face-to-face)

Originally Posted by hnsq

You can think whatever you want..."playing the game" got me from an unknown person applying to a fortune 500 company (no family ties, didn't know anyone at the company) to having a VP not let anyone else interview for my position...And this was in the current economy (hired less than a year ago). I like progressing in my career, and while I am completely honest in everything I do, I will do what I can to get a promotion as well.

You can call it 'high school BS' if you want, but it DOES work.

I am not trying to be harsh, but I want to make myself attractive to employers, and only 50% of why someone is hired is their qualifications, the rest is personality, work ethic, seeing if you 'click' with the group you apply to join. Doesn't it makes sense to train yourself to be the most attractive candidate in all of these fields?

[hnsq]

Originally Posted by Jackyfrost01

lol cool. I just find it akin to acting and a bit of lying. Your allowing people to get to know someone your pretending to be.

But its cool that it works for you. I couldn't keep up that charade for too long (at least in real life, online is different, cuz you don't really know anyone on here and never see them face-to-face)

online is different...you are right.

Everyone acts a little different around different people. Can you really say you act exactly the same around your boss as you do around your mother in law as you do around your 5 year old neice? As long as you aren't acting so different you compromise your values, what is the harm?

[Jackyfrost01]

Originally Posted by hnsq

online is different...you are right.

Everyone acts a little different around different people. Can you really say you act exactly the same around your boss as you do around your mother in law as you do around your 5 year old neice? As long as you aren't acting so different you compromise your values, what is the harm?

We all behave according to what is politically correct for a given situation, yes. Most of us mature enough to do so anyway.