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View Poll Results: Should science seriously study UFOs ?
Yes, they could potentially be the greatest human scientific discovery of all time 26 40.63%
No. UFOs are bunk. 10 15.63%
No, UFOs impossible to realistically study 13 20.31%
Yes, we should at least try 13 20.31%
Don't know... 2 3.13%
Voters: 64. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-05-2010, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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If they cannot account for what they are, they should be studied. I saw a UFO once. Was it a real UFO or me just not being able to identify it? You know, just because it's unidentified to me doesn't make it worthy of research. The air force or the weather people maybe knew what it was. Heck, the guy sitting in the car next to me may have known what it was.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:40 PM
 
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Many of the UFO stories are very compelling. It doesn't really matter if astronomers see them, or this group, or the air force, or this town sees them.
Actually, it does, because astronomers have a better understanding of what's in the sky than do most people. What you've stated is equivalent to saying it doesn't matter whether a property is appraised by a real estate appraiser or a perfume salesman.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:42 PM
 
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as I said: what we can perceive and/or replicate and subject to peer review.
So something that we cannot perceive and/or replicate and subject to peer review needs to be regarded seriously? Since I cannot see pink elephants on Mercury means I need to seriously consider their existence?
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Old 08-06-2010, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
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Actually, it does, because astronomers have a better understanding of what's in the sky than do most people. What you've stated is equivalent to saying it doesn't matter whether a property is appraised by a real estate appraiser or a perfume salesman.
To use a real estate analogy. It'd be like a homeowner finding an odd anomaly when inspecting a home. Or potential home buyers. Just because an appraiser or real estate agent doesn't see it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

Haven't astronauts seen ufo's, or unexplained lights/phenomenon?

That Rendlesham Forest story would be like something odd happening right outside of a real estate appraiser convention. And some of the top people at the convention saw things they couldn't explain.
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Old 08-06-2010, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
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UFO's by definition are UNIDENTIFIED flying objects. You comment is a misnomer.
Of course UFO's exist - otherwise they would all be identified, no one debates that. The OP tried to differentiate this, apparantly many did not read it well. The explanation and origination to explain UFOs is the one in question.

A UFO is not automatically classified or assumed to be of alien nature, and it shouldn't be, such assumption automatically dismisses a mass of explained and unexplained natural earthbound phonemeno, it simply means "unidentified".
There is probably a lot of natural earthbound phenomenon that has not been explained. That, I think is worthy of scientific study.

I don't think every sighting is of alien nature. Many of the sightings are probably natural lights. Like the nothern lights (aurora borealis). Maybe a very complicated combination of things going on (that could explain why these ufo's move so fast, and appear to defy human physics).

-Also to clarify. The descriptions under the poll results at the top of this thread, sort of assumes ufo's are alien in nature.

"Yes, they could potentially be the greatest human scientific discovery of all time." I think that implies, of alien origin. I dont think natural unexplained lights from earth would be considered one of the greatest human scientific discoveries of all time. This is where I got confused. Looking at the poll, and the title, "Are UFO's a phenomenon worthy of scientific study?"
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Old 08-06-2010, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Malibu/Miami Beach
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This is worth watching.

YouTube - ‪Stephen Hawking: Asking big questions about the universe‬‎
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Old 08-06-2010, 05:42 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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Actually, it does, because astronomers have a better understanding of what's in the sky than do most people. What you've stated is equivalent to saying it doesn't matter whether a property is appraised by a real estate appraiser or a perfume salesman.
The astronomer thing is ridiculous. People who watch the country-military,radar operators etc have reported craft. People who are actually in the skies i.e pilots commercial and military have reported them aswell.
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Old 08-08-2010, 12:43 AM
 
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To use a real estate analogy. It'd be like a homeowner finding an odd anomaly when inspecting a home. Or potential home buyers. Just because an appraiser or real estate agent doesn't see it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

Haven't astronauts seen ufo's, or unexplained lights/phenomenon?

That Rendlesham Forest story would be like something odd happening right outside of a real estate appraiser convention. And some of the top people at the convention saw things they couldn't explain.
Astronomers do not see UFO's because they can identify all objects in the sky. Non-astronomers, who are not experts on what's observable in the sky, are the only people who can see objects which cannot be identified.

Astronauts have seen odd phenomenon. However, to this date, no alien spacecraft or anything of the sort.

I'm not familiar with the Rendlesham Forest story. Let me guess -- a bunch of lay people saw an iridium flare and assumed it was an alien spacecraft looking for people to beam up?
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Old 08-08-2010, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
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I'm not familiar with the Rendlesham Forest story. Let me guess -- a bunch of lay people saw an iridium flare and assumed it was an alien spacecraft looking for people to beam up?
It was pretty interesting.

Rendlesham Forest incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


YouTube - ‪The Rendlesham Forest Incident - Part 1/3‬‎


YouTube - ‪The Rendlesham Forest Incident - Part 2/3‬‎


YouTube - ‪The Rendlesham Forest Incident - Part 3/3‬‎
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Old 08-08-2010, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Lowell, MA
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Red face Are UFO's a pheomeon worthy of scientific study?

Of course it is. We have documented proof on Channel 5 news that there were sitings on June 30th, July 8th and around July 19 with film footage to prove it. The object was triangular in shape and about a football field in length.

In March of 2010 a wave of UFO sighting were seen over Ohio.

Just recently released to the public on March 13, 1987 then Governor of Arizona, Jefe Simington witnessed what is called the "Pheonix Lights" approximately a football field in length. This was considered a major sighting and was not revealed to the public due to fear of panic.

I believe it was President Jimmy Carter who made a campaign promise that if he was elected he would make know the file on UFO's. Well he was elected President and nothing further was spoken of any UFO investigation.

To believe or not to believe is up to you...I believe
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