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Old 10-12-2010, 08:48 PM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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"Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem."
Occam's razor doesn't always apply. It only implies that the simplest explanation is the correct one.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:58 PM
 
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Here is more from our astronauts on this topic.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCLjW...eature=related

Some of you might question the dates on this next video (ie 10,000 BC for the pyramids). However, these dates are based on new information that has not yet become "mainstream accepted". Anyway, I think it is a good video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCjhqLkUmtA&feature=fvw

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Old 10-12-2010, 09:37 PM
 
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Some of you might question the dates on this next video (ie 10,000 BC for the pyramids). However, these dates are based on new information that has not yet become "mainstream accepted". Anyway, I think it is a good video.
I don't swallow stuff without checking it out, so I did. Found one site that said they were 11K old, but the url was some guys name, tony something, all others National Geographic, NOVA, some Egyptian sites and others, all say it was built sometime between 3200 BC and 2650 BC.
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:39 PM
 
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It certainly does NOT look as if it is a natural rock. If you think it is, maybe you can show us other natural rocks which look like this on Mars.
Rebar on Mars...................... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:44 PM
 
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What?? You cannot see a large rectangular compound 1/3rd of the way up the photograph on the left edge?
I don't see a rectangle, you don't see one either, rectangles have 4 sides. Do you have evidence the 4th side is there?
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:15 PM
 
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I don't swallow stuff without checking it out, so I did. Found one site that said they were 11K old, but the url was some guys name, tony something, all others National Geographic, NOVA, some Egyptian sites and others, all say it was built sometime between 3200 BC and 2650 BC.
Yeah, the mainstream still accepts the younger dates because these were the dates ancient Egypt existed (it is assumed that ancient Egyptians built these structures). This assumption would be perfectly logical if it weren't for these two videos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXjtl...ext=1&index=44


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsofK...eature=related

The video that stated the 10,000 BC date was giving us the new information (not the old mainstream accepted information). These videos also shed some light onto why we don't know exactly how the Egyptians built these structures (keep in mind that the ancient Egyptians wrote about EVERYTHING except how they constructed the pyramids). Simply put, they probably didn't build the pyramids. They were just the later civilization that claimed the pyramids as their own work.

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Old 10-12-2010, 10:52 PM
 
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Home Depot's getting as bad as Starbucks. They're everywhere!
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:41 PM
 
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The "Aliens Are NOT Fake" Thread

Let's clear one thing up on this thread. It is mainstream knowledge that aliens are real.

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There could be one hundred billion trillion Earth-like planets in space, making it "inevitable" that extraterrestrial life exists, according to a leading astronomer.
AAAS: 'One hundred billion trillion' planets where alien life could flourish - Telegraph

I've noticed that many astronomers agree that life elsewhere is "highly probable" or "inevitable". Let's look at the definitions of both of these terms.

Highly Probable-reasonably so, as on the basis of evidence, but not proved
probable - Definition of probable at YourDictionary.com

When we add the adverb "highly" in front of probable, we get a "highly reasonable" expectation of aliens being real. Therefore, anyone that thinks aliens are not real are being "highly unreasonable".

Inevitable-simply put, it means certain
Inevitable - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

By this definition, all alien skeptics are "delusional".

Delusional-one that holds a false belief
Delusional - definition of Delusional by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.


With that said, this thread is really about "have aliens visited Earth"? (because we are all reasonable enough to know that aliens are real).

Below is an interesting quote from the first link in this post.

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He believes his views will be proved by NASA's Kepler outer space-based telescope, which takes off in the next three weeks with a mission to track down Earth-like habitable planets.
Within four years Dr Boss, who was speaking at the American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting, believes it will have found one in our galaxy and that will prove his theories about their abundance
That article was written in Feb of 2009. How about we found an Earth-like planet in under two years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9O-OmGUXNE

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Old 10-13-2010, 12:34 AM
 
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That article was written in Feb of 2009. How about we found an Earth-like planet in under two years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9O-OmGUXNE

Gliese 581g is indeed impressive because it's thought to be an Earth-sized planet (about 3 times larger), and is located in a 'goldilocks zone' around its host star. The problem is that such a 'goldilocks zone' around a dwarf star puts the planet much closer to the star. It's not necessarily "Earth-like", if you mean something that's potentially hospitable. It might be tidally locked with the star because it's so close to it. In other words, it might not rotate on its axis, or if it does, very s-l-o-w-l-y like Venus. The atmosphere of Gliese 581g is unknown at the present time. Another problem with its closeness to its host star is that the facing side would be blasted by the star's intense radiation. That might not be very suitable for life. There's another problem as well. The planet hasn't yet been confirmed. The system used spectroscopic radial velocity measurements, which look at the planet's 'tug' on the star. The wobble of the star infers the presence of a planet, but the planet itself hasn't been seen yet. That kind of puts its existence into limbo, until other methods can be used to better detect the actual presence of a planet. If it's there, it will eventually be spotted by better instrumentation.

SPACE.com -- Doubt Cast on Existence of Potentially Habitable Planet Gliese 581g
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:03 AM
 
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Gliese 581g is indeed impressive because it's thought to be an Earth-sized planet (about 3 times larger), and is located in a 'goldilocks zone' around its host star. The problem is that such a 'goldilocks zone' around a dwarf star puts the planet much closer to the star. It's not necessarily "Earth-like", if you mean something that's potentially hospitable. It might be tidally locked with the star because it's so close to it. In other words, it might not rotate on its axis, or if it does, very s-l-o-w-l-y like Venus. The atmosphere of Gliese 581g is unknown at the present time. Another problem with its closeness to its host star is that the facing side would be blasted by the star's intense radiation. That might not be very suitable for life. There's another problem as well. The planet hasn't yet been confirmed. The system used spectroscopic radial velocity measurements, which look at the planet's 'tug' on the star. The wobble of the star infers the presence of a planet, but the planet itself hasn't been seen yet. That kind of puts its existence into limbo, until other methods can be used to better detect the actual presence of a planet. If it's there, it will eventually be spotted by better instrumentation.

SPACE.com -- Doubt Cast on Existence of Potentially Habitable Planet Gliese 581g
Good find! However, I am glad that this planet is even being debated. There was a time not too long ago that a potential Earth-like planet would have been considered "classified information". Good thing this alleged planet is 20 light years away in another solar system. If it were in our solar system, the public would have never been told about it IMO.
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