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Old 02-21-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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I just love it when Cap women "take charge"!

OK.... so Jim Jones' brother has said that even as a child, Jim was “Obsessed with Religion, Obsessed with Death.”

His Jupiter (religion & foreign travel) and Pluto (power, death & "transformation") are conjunct in the 7th house, and Jim's Neptune (retrograde) is in the Scorpio-ruled 8th House, of Death & "other peoples resources" (among other things).

3rd House stellium gives that charismatic & persuasive "gift of gab".

In vedic astrology, the North and South Nodes are known as Rahu and Ketu. Jones' Rahu (ruler over worldly desires, adversity, outcasts, phobias, crime, drugs, poisons, toxins, deception, increase in fame etc.), conjuncts both his Moon and Venus. Rahu/Ketu conjunctions are associated with extreme fate and karma, and are often found in cases of infamy and insanity (including Hitler, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, Saddam Hussein, OJ Simpson, etc.). Vedic Astrology - Lunar Nodes, Rahu & Ketu (http://www.macsstars.com/articles/vedic_nodes.htm - broken link)

I also think that retrograde Neptune is key to his psychological motivations, but that's another side of it.

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Old 02-21-2011, 11:01 PM
 
Location: 60630
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I just finished reading about Pseudo-psychologies such as astrology. There is no scientific evidence supporting it's creditability.
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Old 02-22-2011, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Default Back to the basics!

How about an interjection here, going back to the basics, for the sake of the curious here, who are new to Astrology:

Key Words for each sign/associated body parts:

Aries: I am/Head-Face-Brain-Upper Teeth
Tauraus: I have/Throat-Neck-Ears-Tongue-Vocal Chords-Lower Teeth
Gemini: I think/Lungs-Hands-Arms-Shoulder-Nervous System
Cancer: I feel/Breast-Stomach
Leo: I will/Heart-Upper Back
Virgo: I analyze/Liver-Pancreas-Gall Bladder-Upper Bowel-Lower Plexus
Libra: I balance/Kidneys-Lower Back-Adrenal glands
Scorpio: I desire/Genitals-Rectum-Reproductive Organs-Bladder
Sagittarius: I understand/Hips-Thighs-Upper Leg
Capricorn: I use/Knees-Lower Legs
Aquarius: I know/Ankles
Pisces: I believe/Feet

Archetypes:

Aries/The Warrior-Pioneer-Daredevil
Tauraus/Earth Spirit-Musician-Silent One-Solid Citizen
Gemini/The Witness-Teacher-Storyteller-Journalist
Cancer/The Mother-Healer-Invisible Man or Woman-Sensitive
Leo/The King or Queen-Performer-Child
Virgo/The Servant-Martyr-Perfectionist-Analyst-Critic
Libra/The Artist-Peacemaker-Diplomat
Scorpio/The Detective-Sorcerer-Hypnotist-Psychologist
Sagittarius/The Gypsy-Philosopher-Explorer-Student-Anthropologist
Capricorn/The Hermit-Father-Prime Minister-Authority-Strategist
Aquarius/The Revolutionary-Scientist-Genius-Truth Sayer
Pisces/The Mystic-Dreamer-Poet-Face Dancer

Cardinal Signs (Aries,Cancer,Libra, Capricorn) Positively, they are initiators, ambitious, enthusiastic, ardent, independent. Negatively, they can be domineering, inconsiderate, hasty

Fixed Signs: (Tauraus,Leo,Scorpio,Aquarius) Positively, they are determined, able to concentrate, stable, resolute, dignified. Negatively, they can be stubborn, too entrenched in their particular ways of looking at things.

Mutable Signs: (Gemini,Virgo,Sagittarius,Pisces) Positively, they are versatile, adaptable, changeable, subtle. Negatively, they can be deceptive, crafty, inconstant and undependable.

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Old 02-22-2011, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I just finished reading about Pseudo-psychologies such as astrology. There is no scientific evidence supporting it's creditability.
No scientific evidence to religion, either, but billions of people believe in its craziness.

I choose Astrology as my craziness in this crazy world!

Reveal your birthdate and any of us on this thread will be more than happy to add a new dimension of craziness to your world!
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:35 AM
 
Location: Under the Redwoods
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Good postings TIJ-
Especially the 'post your b-day info'
Just got off work- it's 12:30am and I'm freezing my noodles off while waiting for the windshield to defrost.
I'm in a fun mood- Anyone who can guess my job title or what I drive (must explain Astrologically) will get a free mini tarot reading.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:05 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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The fun-loving side of you: Mars in Aquarius.

And if you blend that with Capricorn?

Classic Capricorn would drive a classic, conservative, understated car like a grey Buick.

Mars in Aquarius? It would have to speak of: Just look at this! Found this old 60 Ford Falcon in a junkyard, and I restored it. Who else has one of these on the road!!! (There's that Leo/Aquarius polarity for you!)
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:12 AM
 
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Ha! A 60's Ford Falcon is the first car I remember my parents owning as a child. And get this, I have my first vehicle - a classic, sitting on a mountain, no moving parts except the front tires- waiting for one of my boys to take on the restoration project. Won't tell ya just yet what kind of vehicle just yet.
I'll save the Buick comment until others take a stab.
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Old 02-23-2011, 01:04 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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BTW, anyone notice how many Cardinal sign folks are represented here?

flamingjupiter (Sagittarius sun, Aries moon)
Tobias C (Cancer sun, Scorpio moon)
Mateo45 (Cancer sun, Capricorn moon)
nan5623 (Scorpio sun, Aries moon)
OwlKaMyst (Capricorn sun, Capricorn moon)
tijlover (Aries sun, Capricorn moon)

What, no Libras....?
Although perhaps they might be among our "skeptical" friends here (aka, "I need more facts, to decide!").
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Old 02-23-2011, 01:42 PM
 
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Some skeptics say, 'no scientific proof' - well, science tells us that proof does not make something 'not real'. There has been scientific studies with earthquakes, clams, people (couples, murderers, mentally ill, etc) and more.
What would constitute proper proof for the skeptic?
Evangeline Adams was a famous astrologer. She did not get there by doing charts for people, though the people that where her clients are well known probably because they used astrology to their benefit. One client was JP Morgan.
E. Adams was arrested for being an astrologer, a con basically, using astrology as a supposed BS tool. While on trial she challenged the court to test the validity of astrology. The judge gave her birth information and nothing more. The birth info was that of the judges son.
E. Adams looked at the chart and said that this person had died in a accident involving water. As it was, the judges son had drowned.
The Key Players in Astrology
Proof enough? I doubt it. But hey- I am a skeptic by nature, I question everything. However, when I study something and I find that there is an accuracy that cannot be denied, I have to give it credit.
I enjoy talking with open minded skeptics. I don't enjoy being told that what I have spent years studying is bogus by someone who regurgitates another persons opinion with out doing thier own investigations.
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Old 02-24-2011, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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EXCELLENT post. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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