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Old 08-19-2011, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Universal City, Texas
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UNIVERSITY PARK, Penn. – We've all heard of the ravaged rain forests and the plight of the polar bear. But as far as reasons for saving the planet go, the one offered by scientists Thursday is truly out of this world.


Read more: Aliens Could Attack Earth To End Global Warming, NASA Frets | FoxNews.com
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:39 AM
 
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So what NASA is saying is that ETs are obviously tree-hugging liberals?
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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You get your news from Fox?
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Old 08-19-2011, 12:31 PM
 
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NASA isn't backing this paper or have anything really to do with it. One of the authors works at NASA and simply listed his department improperly as reference.

Past that, the paper is real:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.4462.pdf

And was being published here:

Acta Astronautica - Elsevier


It really is a... well... lets just say, how it passed peer review is well... not a surprise.
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Old 08-19-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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Fox News - Fairly Unbalanced!

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So here’s the thing. This isn’t a “NASA report.” It’s not work funded by NASA, nor is it work supported by NASA in other ways. It was just a fun paper written by a few friends, one of whom happens to have a NASA affiliation.
Here's a link about the report from Universe Today.
No, NASA is Not Predicting We’ll be Destroyed by Aliens
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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This whole thing is obviously a lame ploy by NASA to try and justify some funding $$ to be funneled their way so they can initiate a SETI-type project to try and determine if aliens have us in their gunsights, so to speak. NASA funding has been ravaged over the years--the demise of the Space Shuttle being the most recent example--so they're desperate for money.
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Old 08-20-2011, 02:07 PM
 
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I guess some other group of "scientists" sooner or later will come up with:

~ save the whales aliens

~ gay/anti-gay aliens

~ ford/chevy lover aliens

~ windows/macbook lover aliens

~ feminist (or their equivalent) aliens

When are we going to classify these "scientists" as science fantasy authors and threat them as such?
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Old 08-21-2011, 02:32 AM
 
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As humans have progressed, our morals and values have progressed as well. There's no reason to assume that an alien culture would somehow decide against Kant's Categorical Imperative or Singer's Utilitarianism and decide they hate other sentient life. Most likely, they would want to show us how to live in harmony with other living things rather than wanting to kill us. Why would we assume they would be less interested in us than we would be in them?
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Old 08-21-2011, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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You get your news from Fox?
This is from the report from Fox. Providing scientific thought for citizens to evaluate.
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The thought-provoking scenario is one of many envisaged in a joint study by Penn State and the NASA Planetary Science Division, entitled "Would Contact with Extraterrestrials Benefit or Harm Humanity? A Scenario Analysis."
No evidence of any other reporting agency sharing information provided by Penn State and/or the NASA Planetary Science Division.

Where do you get your information?
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Old 08-21-2011, 04:55 PM
 
Location: MN
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I'm not defending the decision to complete/fund this research, but there seems to be misunderstanding about what it says. The argument is not that radical environmentalist aliens will attack to save the polar bears (lol).

The authors claim that "Humanity may just now be entering the period in which its rapid civilizational expansion could be detected by an ETI because our expansion is changing the composition of Earth’s atmosphere (e.g. via greenhouse gas emissions), which therefore changes the spectral signature of Earth"

Climate change would just alert hostile ETI to our expansion, potentially causing a preemptive strike.

Serious science, eh?
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