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You know guys, I'm suspicious of this one also, but I don't know if I am willing to rule it all out and by this I mean, ruling out the total possibility that there may have been some interaction in the distant past between this earth and beings from elsewhere. I could be totally wrong and with the help of Hollywood and their sometimes comedic interpretations in the past, it's easy to get a chuckle out of the mere thought sometimes. You see, some of us atheists scoff at theists for having the arrogance to think that the universe revolves around their theology and that the earth is the center of their god's affection and attention. We sometimes mock their notion that everything and anything that happens in this vast universe happens here and here only on this speck of h20 and land. Supposedly we alone have the ONLY level of intelligent life and it exists nowhere else. Only we can hop over to neighboring astral bodies in our spaceships and satellites and peep into bedrooms of those neighbors. Could it be that we're not the only game in town? Could it be that there are other thingees out there peering at us, knowing about us, wanting to visit us or may have visited us?
By the way, this does not even remotely suggest I am entertaining anybody's gods, however, if there ever was such a thing and whoever or whatever they may have been were far more advanced than out ancestors, as primitive as they were in some places, would they have considered them "gods???"
Yes, sure. I like the idea of ancient aliens coming and talking to us. The only problem I have is that the evidence put forward for this ranges to the admittedly unexplained (which does not mean aliens dunnit) to the frankly discreditable and discredited like aliens built the pyramids and taught the Moche how to elongate their heads.
This thread subject does not inspire a great deal of confidence, but I might be pleasantly surprised.
"The advanced Mayan society" The one that predicted the end of the earth in 2012? They were so advanced and smart that they went extinct. If they were still around they would have lot more credibility
You know guys, I'm suspicious of this one also, but I don't know if I am willing to rule it all out and by this I mean, ruling out the total possibility that there may have been some interaction in the distant past between this earth and beings from elsewhere. I could be totally wrong and with the help of Hollywood and their sometimes comedic interpretations in the past, it's easy to get a chuckle out of the mere thought sometimes. You see, some of us atheists scoff at theists for having the arrogance to think that the universe revolves around their theology and that the earth is the center of their god's affection and attention. We sometimes mock their notion that everything and anything that happens in this vast universe happens here and here only on this speck of h20 and land. Supposedly we alone have the ONLY level of intelligent life and it exists nowhere else. Only we can hop over to neighboring astral bodies in our spaceships and satellites and peep into bedrooms of those neighbors. Could it be that we're not the only game in town? Could it be that there are other thingees out there peering at us, knowing about us, wanting to visit us or may have visited us?
By the way, this does not even remotely suggest I am entertaining anybody's gods, however, if there ever was such a thing and whoever or whatever they may have been were far more advanced than out ancestors, as primitive as they were in some places, would they have considered them "gods???"
We'll see what becomes of this documentary. Thanks for posting!!!
As for your final statement (in bold) I am reminded of some relatively recent news out of Jerusalem.
What is interesting is that this involves government officials at the top level in Mexico.
No one ever said they were smart.
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sounds like a really good plan to drum up some much needed tourist dollars
That's what it smells like to me. Everyone come to Mehico and be happy for 2012.
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"The advanced Mayan society" The one that predicted the end of the earth in 2012?
They didn't predict the end of the Earth. An art historian (Jose Arguelles) who now claims to be the incarnation of Votan is the one who says the Mayans claim the Earth will end in 2012.
That's what it smells like to me. Everyone come to Mehico and be happy for 2012.
They didn't predict the end of the Earth. An art historian (Jose Arguelles) who now claims to be the incarnation of Votan is the one who says the Mayans claim the Earth will end in 2012.
Indeed. Again I will wait for a year and consign this to the overflowing garbage dump of failed end of earth claims.
Whilst I'm posting, as to the UFO video footage, while it is astonishing to look at, the mental leap from unexplained photos, films or anecdotes to whatever theory one wants to prove is common to religious and cult - thinking.
All we have here is an unexplained film with 'what else could it be?' tacked on.
There are some questions about it. It is rather small, isn't it? If it part of a craft, why doesn't it reflect the light or indeed the light from the illuminated dome?
Finally, the shots from various angles are purportedly from four different witnesses. But they all appear (at the moment) to have got together to post anonymously on internet rather than go individually public. (Yeah, I await the 'they are afraid of ridicule, press hounding and Fatwahs' excuses)
plus there don't seem to be any other witnesses at all.
I'm not dismissing it out of hand but there are some questions to be answered.
"Mexico will release codices, artifacts and significant documents with evidence of Mayan and extraterrestrial contact, and all of their information will be corroborated by archaeologists," said Julia-Levy, son of actor Raul Julia."
I like the way it says 'Mexico' as implying that this was official release of studies, peer reviewed and analyzed documents after some years of cogitation. And announced by some actor's son, rather than their head of education, for some reason.
I just hope it won't be the carving of Pacal II of Palenque flying his space - ship.
One also wonders when Mexican consumers might get auto-focusing video cams. Perhaps they didn't let the "valves" (eh, AREQUIPA, & also known to top Mexican electronics engineers as "tubes"...) warm up. After all, they get the very best & latest Russian-built models right from a rubber raft that leaves Cuba every Wednesday morning! I'm just sayin'....
Here is a drawing from hundreds of years ago in Asia. The drawing tells the story of a vessel coming down from the sky and landing. Its very interesting that its shaped like a modern day flying disk
Not so; you maketh it up! We know the real background on this container, and thusly it can also be 1) a storage pot, 2) a fire-pit containment vessel, 3) a grain sifter, 4) a ceremonial pit for containing frantic local jungle lizards otherwise bound for a nasty sacrificial ceremony, 5) a spittoon, 6) a urinal, 7) a "solid hominid waste" container, 8) a mobile pizza oven, 9) a pot to hold rising breads prior to their being backed in...or, obviously... 10) a bread oven.
And so on. And so forth. Ad infinitum.
Or, as per gsoboi here, a tiny little non-metallic space vessel, with no interior compartmentalization, no drive mechanism, no ping-pong court for the bored inhabitants on year 3,582 of their voyage, no food storage, escape lifeboats, com-equipment antennae, and.... or....
And so on. And so forth. Ad infinitum.
<sigh>
Now, as to top-secret Gov'mint oficialdom in Me-Hee-Coh, is this what passes for that austere level of governmental administrative largess in that crime-riddled hell-hole? The Min'o'Tourism for a local state in Mexico? A Mexican State is sorta akin to a little collection of drying Saguaro Cacti on an arid patch of sand, with some dessicated goats wandering by looking for some stale water. Impressive! No wonder they be needin' some tourism dollars! An... make eet fast, mi amigos!!!
But, do pray tell, what will the touristaz do after the ***'s up, the alien craft put out in the hot sun turn out to have decades-old spider webbage within, and fresh Caterpillar Tractor tracks are found on the faked landing sites?
Q: Will they then hurredly-scurredly load up the bus (with, one desperately hopes, functioning A/C, and not of the stale-water-fed Swamp Cooler variety...) and rush them all over to the Acambara Pots'n'Aliens site*, for a nifty seminar by THEIR competing Min-O-Trade & Tourist Scamming advocate-in-general?
(* side note to TLGTC34....) [[the late great, etc...]] with apologies to Tom, since he's unable to be here, but one hopes he's having a good laugh at all of us from his ringside seat, an ice-cold Bud in his hands (God likes His beers light and refreshing, after all...), and a fresh bag of Doritos at his and God's beck and call....)
This is, of course, "clearly".... (and a brief PS to ARE: I LIKE that word. I can see it's great utility, as you've pointed out!)
...as if The Minister of Tourism for North Dakota were to tell us we'd all better flee for our lives, that a really big plague of genetically mod'ed locusts is/are about to pack their tiny little locust-travel-bags in ND and head on out on a path of sure and certain national, indeed global, destruction!
Cayn't say he didn't dun warn us, eh?
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Ok, we all love new ideas and this is all rather fun. At the same time, this is tossing out a bit of a challenge 'You orthodox historians had it all wrong'.
If their claims are made to look foolish, then they deserve all they get. I have little sympathy with nut cult tourism exploitation.
But but but... what if they're right? OMG!
I look forward to this phenomenal announcement, and the instant interest it should generate... (or...the vigorous unofficial attempts to snuff it all out... as in: the appearance of hordes of US-built, blacked out GM [read: Goverment Motors...] Suburbans, fitted with supercharged 8.1l gas big blocks and REALLY THICK DOORS, the sure indicator of the CIA/FBI/TSA/HS crowd..., who arrive to the press announcement and their be-sunglassed hive-drone-types emerge with LMTCo 7.62mm devices at the C&L ready....
WELL THEN, by God, We'll KNOW It Was Not Ever A Fake! RunFYLives!
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You know guys, I'm suspicious of this one also, but I don't know if I am willing to rule it all out and by this I mean, ruling out the total possibility that there may have been some interaction in the distant past between this earth and beings from elsewhere. I could be totally wrong
Could it be that there are other thingees out there peering at us, knowing about us, wanting to visit us or may have visited us?
By the way, this does not even remotely suggest I am entertaining anybody's gods, however, if there ever was such a thing and whoever or whatever they may have been were far more advanced than out ancestors, as primitive as they were in some places, would they have considered them "gods???"
and this...
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... I agree with Insane, in as much as it is not impossible that there is other life in the universe, and it is not impossible that other life at one time visited earth. I see no evidence for it, but it's not impossible.
I like your thinkingz, IIDM & BoxCar: I too am very interested in such communication, but "ancient abandoned space pads in Mexico"? Why is it the aliens only arrived back when we were socially antique by any standards, and unable to communicate effectively, bu also full of vicious tribal angst and superstition?
The minister of tourism is equivalent to the VP or Sec of Defense????
oh....kay.
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no but but high government officials are involved in this project and are revealing information for the documentary.
Ahh... Uhmmm.... Errr.... So Sorry: no references to that level of authority in any of your posts. Link please?
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All we have here is an unexplained film with 'what else could it be?' tacked on.
I'm not dismissing it out of hand but there are some questions to be answered.
Oh you! such a spoil-sport! The Brits always were of limited scientific imagination Dawkins, Priestley, Scheele, Cavendish, Crick, Dalton, Joule, Darwin, Hitchens... all sadly tightly tied & tethered to their intellectual hitching post, and never acknowledging The Bigger Picture.... like Mexico is here, as THE destination site for an alien tourista inspection!
(cut to bad video footage of Luyt-nant µ^n%4st...
…the lay of the land as it were, "Down Mexico Way"...
"And over here, sir, is their grain processing...uhmmm.. system. Note the donkey tetherd with... uhhmmm... leather thongs, and the small toothless swatter-equipped kid who is wacking away at those tiny little mammalian rodents that are scurrying about!
Impressive technology, yes? Yes? No?
What do you mean, I'm off to Siberia, sir? But... but... Miami was overbooked this weekend, and Vegas' hotels are a bit too taudry for YOUR Grande Generalisimo image, sir!
There is no difference between believing in alien visitation of earth and the believing in god. People will believe what they want despite zero credible evidence of either.
There is no difference between believing in alien visitation of earth and the believing in god. People will believe what they want despite zero credible evidence of either.
But then, here's all that very believable evidence FOR Evolution, ancient geology, DNA linage tracing all the way from the Bering Sea Inuits back over the millennia and continents to (wayyyyhhhttttttfurIttttt...) Africa. And Lucy @ ≈ 1M years of age. But then.. her predecesor Ardy: Australopithecu sediba, from wayyy backkk when.... (>> 2M yrs!)
S'OK... Christians should go on fervently believing whatever unsupported metaphorical fairytales they choose. IMHO, we should each have our own twisted & distorted ideas to cherish, right? Even if ours [i.e.: scientists'…] are backed by literally centuries of independent studies and reproducible results.
But in the case of an upcoming alien visitation, or at least potential Mexi-Gov-approved proof of a past one, that obviously (and dare I say... "clearly"...???) falls into the Scientifically Credible file, as long as you don't ruffle around in there too deeply.
But then, here's all that very believable evidence FOR Evolution, ancient geology, DNA linage tracing all the way from the Bering Sea Inuits back over the millennia and continents to (wayyyyhhhttttttfurIttttt...) Africa. And Lucy @ ≈ 1M years of age. But then.. her predecesor Ardy: Australopithecu sediba, from wayyy backkk when.... (>> 2M yrs!)
S'OK... Christians should go on fervently believing whatever unsupported metaphorical fairytales they choose. IMHO, we should each have our own twisted & distorted ideas to cherish, right? Even if ours [i.e.: scientists'…] are backed by literally centuries of independent studies and reproducible results.
But in the case of an upcoming alien visitation, or at least potential Mexi-Gov-approved proof of a past one, that obviously (and dare I say... "clearly"...???) falls into the Scientifically Credible file, as long as you don't ruffle around in there too deeply.
"The advanced Mayan society" The one that predicted the end of the earth in 2012? They were so advanced and smart that they went extinct. If they were still around they would have lot more credibility
Just for the record, the Mayans did not go "extinct." They are still there in the Yucatan, Guatamala and Belize, still speak their language, etc. The classic Mayan culture went extinct, not the Mayans themselves.
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