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Old 10-01-2011, 11:42 PM
 
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it's amazing what one person can do if you live and breath it..



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the inca lived and breathed stone no aliens needed.. but i do believe that other inteligent life forms exist,, the universe is huge and i doubt that we are the only intelligent life forms in all of the universe or universes..



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Old 10-02-2011, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Another example of what one man can do...


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Old 10-02-2011, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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You have a problem with the word believe? The very word you so tenaciously hang on to? I don't think it would matter what proof you were shown, you would continue to believe what you WANT to.
Wrong. I am very logical when I am show proof. However, if that proof can be read in several ways resulting in several results, it really isn't proof of much, is it.


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Why don't you try reading the entire article? NOVA | Who Built the Pyramids?
I did read it.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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Funny how reasearching something that seems magical will soon (with patient and competent research) reveal the very human quality of many things. The pyramids, the Bible, the Sunday Comics...

And sometimes researching something magical will bring about knowledge and wisdom of how it actually works(ed)
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Old 10-02-2011, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Metromess
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Well then, you should place "magic" in quotation marks.
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Old 10-02-2011, 01:25 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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And sometimes researching something magical will bring about knowledge and wisdom of how it actually works(ed)
That's right, as Marl Lehner discovered during his on site research in Egypt, but I think you should have used the phrase "something that seems magical"... There is nothing magical about the hard work it took to build the pyramids... To attribute it to magic or aliens, belittles the accomplishments of the people who actually built those great monuments.
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Old 10-02-2011, 01:51 AM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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That's right, as Marl Lehner discovered during his on site research in Egypt, but I think you should have used the phrase "something that seems magical"... There is nothing magical about the hard work it took to build the pyramids... To attribute it to magic or aliens, belittles the accomplishments of the people who actually built those great monuments.
I don't doubt that humans had a hand in building the greatest monuments we have today. But, I am not 100 % sold on the belief that they did this with primitive tools. I think there is a possibility, no matter how remote, that something or someone helped them do this.
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Old 10-02-2011, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I don't doubt that humans had a hand in building the greatest monuments we have today. But, I am not 100 % sold on the belief that they did this with primitive tools. I think there is a possibility, no matter how remote, that something or someone helped them do this.
Of course you do, completely ignoring the fact that the work is being duplicated today with hand tools.
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Old 10-02-2011, 06:09 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I don't doubt that humans had a hand in building the greatest monuments we have today. But, I am not 100 % sold on the belief that they did this with primitive tools. I think there is a possibility, no matter how remote, that something or someone helped them do this.
As is the case with every theist and cultist reasoning, a possibility remote or not too remote, is no a logical reason to believe.

Now a I can understand doubts that stone cutting without machine tools is impossible or shifting huge blocks without cranes and doubts are permissible. But that is not evidence. Jumping to conclusions based on doubtful evidence or simply lack of evidence is why science sneers at cult think and its pretensions to scientific validity and cult and theism sneers at science and its apparent refusal to think outside the box.

However, it was said earlier on that there is evidence that men did this work and the tool marks indicate that it was done with the tools of the time.

This site is worth looking at.

Extreme Egyptian Masonry.

I guess it can be interpreted two ways - that it was not so hard as we think to saw blocks of pyramid stone or that they had to use power saws to be able to stop and start again.

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Old 10-02-2011, 06:23 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Of course you do, completely ignoring the fact that the work is being duplicated today with hand tools.
It also ignores the fact that the very hard Nephrite Jade was worked in Mesoamerica and China without power tools and they actually didn't have power tools in Ptolemaic Egypt where the hardest diorite was worked and polished to mirror finish.

There is room to look at Davidovits' moulded limestone blocks, though that doesn't help with the granite blocks, but there is a tendency to be selective about the evidence - or rather the unexplained questions - and that's what's wrong with this sort of cult -reasoning. It takes a possibility and turns it into a belief.
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