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Old 02-19-2012, 10:39 AM
 
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1990 a group of friends in their 20's rented a small house that was probably built late 1940's. It had a large pentagram burned on the basement trap door and a few small ones around the house. They paid no mind except for covering one with rug. Nearly everyone that lived there and some guests experienced some sort of strange occurances. Glass breaking by itself, a nearly fatal accidental shooting, a grounds search for strange noise resulting in 4 people missing for unknown amount of time, a funnel cloud directly above and a star in the mud afterwords, musical instruments playing themselves in the basement and more. Within 3 months everyone moved out and went on with their lives.
Fast forward to 2008 and 70 miles away I was searching houses for sale on MLS and came across a familier house. It was the same house. To my total suprise the square footage in the details was 666. It kind of freaked me out a little as if just a little hello!. I shut the computer off and resumed search another time. Just wanted to share this experience.
Demons are real and exist. they are a powerful being but are not seen ( usually). they are beings like human (thoughtful - intellect) but with
much more ability (physically). their lifetime is very long too (a young demon's age is about 1500 years old ). I said about their ability , for example a strong demon can travel from China to America only in five second or he can lift a rock with 2000 kg W easily. demon are every where in across the world. some of them believe in god and some are atheist ( usually every group of demons follow a religion that is common in a area. for instance mostly demons folk which live in the Tibet are Budahism and some of them which live in the Middle east are Muslim and mostly of them which live in the US are christian. some of demons (from ever area) don't believe in god basically and don't follow any religion, such demons are infidel (like some humans ). Generally demons don't like appear to human but some of them are rebel and turbulent ( like some criminal humans ) and due to their power can be harmful and dangerous.dangerous demons usually are those who are atheist and no believe in god and goodness. they often appear to some persons to scare or hurt them ( of course some of them show themselves but not obviously , rather they announce human their presence by moving some things or making nose. such demons are not dangerous but are frightening and annoying ). Nevertheless human is higher existence to demons ( if they have believed in god's reality and are righteous ).
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:00 PM
 
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Demons are real and exist. they are a powerful being but are not seen ( usually). they are beings like human (thoughtful - intellect) but with
much more ability (physically). their lifetime is very long too (a young demon's age is about 1500 years old ). I said about their ability , for example a strong demon can travel from China to America only in five second or he can lift a rock with 2000 kg W easily. demon are every where in across the world. some of them believe in god and some are atheist ( usually every group of demons follow a religion that is common in a area. for instance mostly demons folk which live in the Tibet are Budahism and some of them which live in the Middle east are Muslim and mostly of them which live in the US are christian. some of demons (from ever area) don't believe in god basically and don't follow any religion, such demons are infidel (like some humans ). Generally demons don't like appear to human but some of them are rebel and turbulent ( like some criminal humans ) and due to their power can be harmful and dangerous.dangerous demons usually are those who are atheist and no believe in god and goodness. they often appear to some persons to scare or hurt them ( of course some of them show themselves but not obviously , rather they announce human their presence by moving some things or making nose. such demons are not dangerous but are frightening and annoying ). Nevertheless human is higher existence to demons ( if they have believed in god's reality and are righteous ).
How do you measure how fast a demon is? How do you know how old it is? You didn't by any chance, get this out of a book of fairy tales?
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:10 PM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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Wow, this sounds just like the TV series Supernatural, that is fiction BTW

Please explain where do demons reside and why they need portals as you call them?

What are demons?

How? Making a claim is not fact.

Why? If your demons are fallen angels and by inference only a third were booted out as per traditional folklore, would there not be more angels than demons? You know outnumbered 2:1?

Why would we want to kill ourselves. If they are "spirits" what possible influence could they have on us?

So you take hearsay as fact?

Again you make claims w/o offering a shred of proof to back your claims.

To be clear, what your personal beliefs are are of no consequence to me. All I am highlighting is the claims you make are backed by nothing.

IMO, demons, angels and all the invisible make believe things folk believe in are constructs of their own imagination. IOW they are not real. The mind plays tricks on people and folk look for patterns where there are none to validate their beliefs.

IF these things were real, then every single person on earth should have encountered them one time or another. I have not encountered any "invisible" cretins in my 54 years of existences.

At age 8 however, I did (I think) experience something weird. I went to the kitchen to get a glass of milk, my folks were with friends in the living room.

I turned to the fuse boxes in the kitchen (the very old type that your made your own fuses for) and saw two balls of light and heard two loud bangs.

I ran to the lounge and as kids sometimes do start crying and cannot catch their breath. My sister asked what's wrong as I was obvious white and about to wail as I caught my breath. Between the sobs I explained what I had experienced. My dad went to inspect and no fuses were blown and they heard nothing.

That is etched in my memories and I can see it in my mind's eye still today.

Did it happen? Probably not. Perhaps I was in a transition between sleep and wakening perhaps sleep walking and what I experienced was something my mind just invented for some reason. People have suggested ball lightning or plasma, it was not raining.

I am not afraid of the dark other than being cautious when in the bush for wild animals. If I were "open" to the spiritual realm as some suggested, I should have had more than just this one experience.

I believe what folk think they see, the brain is playing tricks on them. Up until my mid 20's I had vivid dreams and many times it was hard to differentiate reality with fantasy/dreams. The brain is only fully developed around 25ish so perhaps whatever is happening neurologically, can be an explanation.

I would lean to the scientific explanations rather than hold to folklore and myths.

The mind is a very powerful thing and it can be fooled.
Don't believe in ghosts? You would if you spent some time in my world.

This is an old farm, the house was built in 1865 and the area has several NA burial grounds.

We have a spirit we call Junior, large, male and up until a couple of weeks ago, non verbal.

I was the only one at home, I was huddled in front of the fire (the flu) when I heard someone yelling 'hey' really loud. I went outside to see who it was. Nobody. The thing was, my dog Moose had gotten his chain wrapped around a tree and had I not gone out when I did, he would have strangled to death.

We've gotten so used to Junior's presence that he's almost like family. He kinda patrols the area around the house, we see him walking past the windows around dusk like he's making sure everything is ok.

We also hear slamming car doors when there are no visitors, phantom chainsaws and the sound of wood being split by an axe. Sounds like the former owners are just going about work as usual.
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:17 PM
 
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How do you measure how fast a demon is? How do you know how old it is? You didn't by any chance, get this out of a book of fairy tales?
Sounds like he's referring to a Djinn.
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:21 PM
 
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1990 a group of friends in their 20's rented a small house that was probably built late 1940's. It had a large pentagram burned on the basement trap door and a few small ones around the house. They paid no mind except for covering one with rug. Nearly everyone that lived there and some guests experienced some sort of strange occurances. Glass breaking by itself, a nearly fatal accidental shooting, a grounds search for strange noise resulting in 4 people missing for unknown amount of time, a funnel cloud directly above and a star in the mud afterwords, musical instruments playing themselves in the basement and more. Within 3 months everyone moved out and went on with their lives.
Fast forward to 2008 and 70 miles away I was searching houses for sale on MLS and came across a familier house. It was the same house. To my total suprise the square footage in the details was 666. It kind of freaked me out a little as if just a little hello!. I shut the computer off and resumed search another time. Just wanted to share this experience.
Oh, so you think by shutting off your computer you severed the connection? I think not my doomed friend, I think not!
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Sounds like he's referring to a Djinn.
I see. It is make believe then.

As a kid, I had to attend a church, that had a demon fetish. Just so much dribble and nonsense from so called adults.
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Old 02-19-2012, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Surf city, NC
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I believe a house can be haunted but not posessed. Perhaps in it was bulit on a burial ground or something terrible happend there & something/someone still resides in it. I personally don't believe an object can be posessed though.
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Old 02-19-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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Default Can a house be possessed or haunted?

There is no verifiable scientific evidence for ghosts, spirits, demons, gods or any other supernatural beings or phenomena.

Therefore, it is impossible for a house to be possessed or haunted. There are always alternative, rational explanations for it.
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Old 02-19-2012, 01:47 PM
 
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I see. It is make believe then.

As a kid, I had to attend a church, that had a demon fetish. Just so much dribble and nonsense from so called adults.
I find fundamentalist churches and their beliefs to be a source of amusement.

They don't believe that Granny can come back for a visit, that's just silly, ghosts don't exist. Say the word "demon" though and everyone of them has a story. Go figure.

Personally, I think their stories of demon possession are just a way for them to rationalize normal ( for the rest of us ) biological urges or as an excuse for bad behavior. "i'm a pastor, I didn't molest those kids and spend all the churches funds on porn. The devil made me do it!". But, that's my opinion.

I do believe there is an unseen world around us, a world of spirits. I do not believe in the stereotypical demon though, just spirits in need of an attitude adjustment.

Once again, that's just my opinion.
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Old 02-19-2012, 01:52 PM
 
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There is no verifiable scientific evidence for ghosts, spirits, demons, gods or any other supernatural beings or phenomena.

Therefore, it is impossible for a house to be possessed or haunted. There are always alternative, rational explanations for it.
There exists no verifiable scientific evidence for your Christian God either but that hasn't stopped anyone from believing in him/her.

Makes ya wonder, don't it?
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