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Old 04-26-2012, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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My interest in the Amityville case has been quite dormant for a couple of years until this thread popped up. I've of course heard about this "documentary" and the negative critisicm it recieved.

As for the drugs acting like a buffer against spirits, I've heard that you have to be in an open and receptive state for spirits, not numbed out by chemicals. My knowledge of the paranormal and "the other side" is very limited.

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Old 04-26-2012, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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you may have a point Oleg, I am on the fence about it all and still wonder about things. Especially since so little is known about paranormal things and how our brain tries to make things up that are not there to fill in the gaps. I am wondering when it's the brain doing it or when it's reality or a little of both...
That's how I feel when I'm watching the Science Channel when they have those shows speculating about the Universe ... so much of it is based in the imagination of the scientists. However, I do believe in the paranormal. We can't "see" electricity or radio waves either but that doesn't mean they're make believe.
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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My interest in the Amityville case has been quite dormant for a couple of years until this thread popped up. I've of course heard about this "documentary" and the negative critisicm it recieved.

As for the drugs acting like a buffer against spirits, I've heard that you have to be in an open and receptive state for spirits, not numbed out by chemicals. My knowledge of the paranormal and "the other side" is very limited.
I have heard the opposite, that drug use is one of the things that opens your consciousness up to being influenced by negative spirits.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Ostend,Belgium....
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if you read the books of Carlos Castaneda, where he talks about eating mushrooms and so on and having hallucinations, you would think drugs open the mind to allow things in.
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Old 04-26-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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I have heard the opposite, that drug use is one of the things that opens your consciousness up to being influenced by negative spirits.
Depends on the drug. If it's a mind altering drug like LSD or the aforementioned mushrooms I guess it's possible to be in a sensitive and receptive state. If it's Liquor, Heroin or other downers quite the opposite. Ronnie is interesting because he was into everything including hard drugs like Heroin. And at the time of the murders he was a self confessed Heroin addict.

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Old 04-27-2012, 08:27 PM
 
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Yes, the DeFeo murders and the haunting theory by George and Kathy Lutz, who also took the truth to the grave and their children aren't talking.
Yes they are:

Danny Lutz -

My Amityville Horror – The Official Production Diary

Christopher Lutz -

Amityville Horror Challenge
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Old 04-27-2012, 09:17 PM
 
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if you read the books of Carlos Castaneda, where he talks about eating mushrooms and so on and having hallucinations, you would think drugs open the mind to allow things in.
Good books. I think it was peyote he wrote about.
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Ostend,Belgium....
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yes it was peyote, redbird
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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George and Kathy are gone and Ronnie soon. But the house remains. A full scale non-biased parapsychological investigation should be done. The case should be reopened so to say. After all this is one of the most famous allegedly haunted houses in the world.
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:58 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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George and Kathy are gone and Ronnie soon. But the house remains.
A full scale non-biased parapsychological investigation should be done. The case should be reopened so to say. After all this is one of the most famous allegedly haunted houses in the world.
I'd like to see this happen as well.
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