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This can not be refuted. Thick walls in dutch colonial houses? No, a rifle is loud as hell.
It really should not be dwelled on, as the proof is that he did indeed shot them with a rifle. So what are we concluding here? That Casper the Friendly ghost somehow put some spell on the rifle to silence it?
There are many explanations:
Neighbors heard it but ignored it and fell asleep.
The housing insulation effectively muffled enough of the sound.
The murderer used some kind of home made silensor (pillow or something).
I am familiar with gunfire. Gunfires out in the open, in a street or field, echo and resonate. Gunfire in an enclosure, a building, are very loud to those in the same room, but not necessarily in the same building in other rooms and not outside the building. Gunfire can also be mistaken for other sounds for those not familiar with the sound.
Atmospheric and geographical conditions also have an effect on noise, strange enough.
I just don't see it as a significant factor to prove anything, and what we are trying to prove by "no one heard gunfire" is still in question, since death by firearm is beyond question.
It really should not be dwelled on, as the proof is that he did indeed shot them with a rifle. So what are we concluding here? That Casper the Friendly ghost somehow put some spell on the rifle to silence it?
There are many explanations: Neighbors heard it but ignored it and fell asleep.
The housing insulation effectively muffled enough of the sound.
The murderer used some kind of home made silensor (pillow or something).
I am familiar with gunfire. Gunfires out in the open, in a street or field, echo and resonate. Gunfire in an enclosure, a building, are very loud to those in the same room, but not necessarily in the same building in other rooms and not outside the building. Gunfire can also be mistaken for other sounds for those not familiar with the sound.
Atmospheric and geographical conditions also have an effect on noise, strange enough.
I just don't see it as a significant factor to prove anything, and what we are trying to prove by "no one heard gunfire" is still in question, since death by firearm is beyond question.
No. Not in a wealthy suburban area. On new years eve, yes.
Last edited by Northwindsforever; 04-25-2012 at 07:25 AM..
Particularly in a wealthy neighborhood.
You wake up half asleep to a "clap". Maybe a slammed door, maybe a garbage can, maybe it was a dream....
You have never heard gunfire before, you wouldn't have the slightest notion of what one sounds like.
You are tired, you worked late, it's the middle of the night, you have to work tommorrow...
What would you do?
Particularly in a wealthy neighborhood.
You wake up half asleep to a "clap". Maybe a slammed door, maybe a garbage can, maybe it was a dream....
You have never heard gunfire before, you wouldn't have the slightest notion of what one sounds like.
You are tired, you worked late, it's the middle of the night, you have to work tommorrow...
What would you do?
I would smoke a cigarette and go back to sleep. But we are talking atleast 7 rifle shots here in a peacful and quiet suburban area with alot of dogs. I'm pretty sure that many of the neighbors were sleeping on barbiturates (those were common back in the day) but all of them? No. There's always the houswife "neighborhood watchdog" who are reading true crime entertainment and immediately calls 911 when neighborhood kids are listening to anything other than the Beach Boys.
Guys - this is an 100% ADMITTED HOAX. There are still claims on websites, discussion boards, etc. And it will continue, because people just wanna believe. I assume even people here will still claim it's real. But the evidence against it is undeniable. It does not warrant discussion as a supernatural event.
I think what started as a hoax ended with a strange twist.
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Originally Posted by MsAnnThrope
Sadly I think the Amityville Horror was down to one mentally ill young man. No ghosts or ghouls, just crazy.
Mentally ill for sure, but it doesn't explain how he killed an entire family, without awaking one person. Particularly the father, you'd think he would have tried to get out of bed.
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Originally Posted by Annuvin
The one thing that has always bothered me about the DeFeo homicides is how Ronald DeFeo was able to systematically murder his entire family with an unslienced Marlin 336 rifle, and not have even a single family member awake to the sound of gunshots. That has always made zero sense to me.
Agree, mysterious. Was the whole family medicated, seriously?
I believe the siblings woke up after he shot the parents. He then just forced them back to the bedrooms with the rifle. I'm also open to the theory that his eldest sister Dawn helped out. She was also into drugs back in 1974 and other problems.
Last edited by Northwindsforever; 04-25-2012 at 10:31 PM..
Wasn't it one story and one "wannamakemoney" story?
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