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Old 04-28-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Under the Redwoods
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in my communications with those who have passed on it has been revealed there is no awareness of time in any way on the other side.
I was not referring to the ghosts/dead's awareness of time. I was addressing the thought about ancient people not being ghosts and asking the living what would be considered ancient.
There is no concept of time except in the minds of man because man created it.
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Old 04-28-2012, 06:32 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Very interesting stories about ghoulish native Americans! I guess the phrase, 'haunted by the ghosts of the past' takes on a whole new, very literal meaning!
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Old 04-28-2012, 09:17 PM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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Very interesting stories about ghoulish native Americans! I guess the phrase, 'haunted by the ghosts of the past' takes on a whole new, very literal meaning!
I'll be 56 next month, I have yet to meet a ghoulish ghost regardless of ethnic background.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:47 AM
 
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Very interesting stories about ghoulish native Americans! I guess the phrase, 'haunted by the ghosts of the past' takes on a whole new, very literal meaning!
LOL! I am not ghoulish. Well, I take that back. Yes, I can be. Especially when I stay up all night.

There is a man up north who I used to visit. He experienced two native american women on his property which he believed were pre-European contact. He said they were beautiful. He lived by a place the local Native population used for fasting and vision quests.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I'll be 56 next month, I have yet to meet a ghoulish ghost regardless of ethnic background.
I searched for the definition of 'ghoul.' I just thought it was another word for 'ghost', my mistake.
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:01 PM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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I searched for the definition of 'ghoul.' I just thought it was another word for 'ghost', my mistake.
No problem. . It's just a teensy language barrier thing.
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Old 05-05-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Or are they just so frustratingly elusive?

I mean say you know of a haunted house. If there's a real ghost in there, surely you could invite 100 skeptics in there and they'd find something right? Unless the ghost is shy? But why? Would a ghost not want us to believe in it?

And this could have happened 100 years ago before holographics etc. Nowadays, it seems, it might be impossible to convince some skeptics of ghosts because they will just explain it away with technology.

If ghosts/hauntings/supernatural experiences are so common, why do so many believe, have no experience? Is it because they are closed to spiritual things or is that just a way to explain why only 'special' psychically gifted people can see, hear, converse or relate with the dead?
Other than ghost tours or paranormal ghost shows, how would seeing a ghost be explained away by holographics and technology?

Spirit apparitians require energy. Their presense is attachment to particular locations, and or people, including possesions they had a fondness for while living.

I don't think they're on a mission of making skeptics into believers.
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Old 05-05-2012, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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I didn't read everyone post but I think that some people are just more open to ghosts, spirits, etc.
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:10 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Other than ghost tours or paranormal ghost shows, how would seeing a ghost be explained away by holographics and technology?

Spirit apparitians require energy. Their presense is attachment to particular locations, and or people, including possesions they had a fondness for while living.

I don't think they're on a mission of making skeptics into believers.
Well I went to the Haunted Mansion at Disneyland and the special effects are pretty convincing!
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:46 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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One of the reasons that I am skeptical that dead people somehow continue to survive as immaterial intelligences (ghosts) is that if they did, wouldn't they be behaving a lot differently? Wouldn't every murderer be haunted by the people he killed for the rest of his life? Wouldn't there be ghosts not just from parts of history that we understand and are familiar with, but also from parts of history that we aren't so familiar with, like Caveman Ghosts? It just seems that there's a lot that doesn't add up about ghosts being deceased humans. That's why I tend to think that we may be misinterpreting them, and that they might be life forms from another planet or dimension or whatever that we have decided are dead humans because that's the only thing that most people can imagine. Also, most people WANT their dead loved ones to still be around, so that gives them the incentive to continue to believe in the ghosts as dead people theory.
You mention "caveman ghosts" and it's a valid question. Who says there aren't any??? There are spirits and entities that are unidentified. There are hauntings that no one can pin on a person who once lived.

I think some of these could well be traced to the earliest human beings. And others to animals.

I also think that not all of beings comeback as ghosts. Because some do and some don't does not make it untrue.

The idea that people from pre-history could be ghosts, is not incredible to me at all! And the house we live in may not be haunted - it could be the land.

And the land was here before your house, or your city. The land is old. Old as dirt.
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