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Old 05-24-2014, 05:39 PM
 
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1. Source, please?

2. To be fair, though, death appears to be a gradual process. Thus, I think that when they currently cryogenically preserve someone, then this individual is not fully dead--rather, the process of death has begun, but the body (including the brain) are not fully dead yet before the cryogenic preservation takes place.

3. In my honest opinion, the current laws in regards to this appear to be idiotic. After all, why exactly someone shouldn't be able to consent to this option? It is their life and their body, after all.

4. Wouldn't this be begging the question by assuming that a soul even exists?
1. I remembered hearing about it many years ago as a girl..... and when I checked Wikipedia it confirmed it. I know that's not exactly a "Primary Source" as sources go, but they have sources listed for it, too.

2. To me, dead is dead. The heart stops and brain function follows very soon after. With all our red tape, by the time the body got processed out and into the freezer... it's dead dead. It has ceased to be. I could go with the Parrot Sketch, but by now we all should know it.

3. Laws always follow science. Never the other way. Designer drugs come up all the time and then have to be outlawed. And then years later, do become idiotic. I have strong feelings anti-suicide -- it's not something I would consider. Messes with your karma.

4. Well -- I think the vast majority of the people on this forum do believe in souls. For us that believe, a soul is a given, not needing proof.
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Or not! If there is no soul or spirit which survives our bodies, then death closes all and our awareness ceases. So if that's the case we will not "find out" anything.
Right ... believing anything else is a matter of faith. So for that matter is unbelief.
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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A living organism needs a soul to live? Hogwash. So what do you make of clones then? Say a person was cloned. Was his soul cloned too? No one would claim that occurs, yet the clone is just as much alive as his progenitor.
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Old 05-26-2014, 11:11 AM
 
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A living organism needs a soul to live? Hogwash. So what do you make of clones then? Say a person was cloned. Was his soul cloned too? No one would claim that occurs, yet the clone is just as much alive as his progenitor.
Clones are soulless abominations from hell, lol. Sure, a cloned person or animal might appear "normal", but you know you'd secretly worry about that creepy thing! lol
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Old 05-26-2014, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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A living organism needs a soul to live? Hogwash. So what do you make of clones then? Say a person was cloned. Was his soul cloned too? No one would claim that occurs, yet the clone is just as much alive as his progenitor.
A clone has its own memories and experiences ... it's not at all the same person. Neither are two identical twins. From a biological perspective a clone is simply an identical twin created by technology years after conception of the prototype. For someone who believes in the existence of souls, that would be a different soul ... as is the case with identical twins. The problem for the existence of souls posed by cloning is no different then than the problem posed by the existence of identical twins.

A more difficult problem for the believer in life requiring presence of an animating non-physical spirit I think is the existence of HeLa cells, which are cultured from a line of cancer cells taken from their owner in 1951, a few months before her death. Does one claim that a portion of her spirit live on in those cells? If so, is she somehow bound to this earth until the last HeLa culture dies?
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Old 05-27-2014, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Souls of Clones are destined to meet with the original soul in a battle for supremacy in the Ring of Eternal Banishment after each body dies. In the event of multiple clones, this conflict would be a Battle-Royal type of thing.
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Old 05-28-2014, 09:54 AM
 
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Souls of Clones are destined to meet with the original soul in a battle for supremacy in the Ring of Eternal Banishment after each body dies. In the event of multiple clones, this conflict would be a Battle-Royal type of thing.
I think I played that video game once.
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