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Old 10-18-2014, 08:18 AM
 
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I stopped mountain biking alone after I saw a fence on the side of the bike path cut or pulled open. It had to be either a bear or mountain lion that did that. Going around 30 mph downhill you're always looking over your shoulder and don't want to be another missing statistic. Who knows with all the sitings of wild creatures and unknown things out there (in the city). Just imagine what's in the big forests. We don't fully know.
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Old 10-18-2014, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Under a bridge
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Author David Paulides has profiled hundreds of these cases. I think a lot of people especially city dwellers underestimate the dangers in wilderness areas. Its easy to get turned around in just a few yards or slip and fall somewhere. And then of course the predators that reside there.
Here's a report from Las Vegas Channel 8 news reporter George Knapp on David Paulides' investigations of missing people in National Parks. The findings of neatly folded clothes is bizarre.

http://youtu.be/HNLaYXRG-vA
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Old 10-18-2014, 05:53 PM
 
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Not certain what point you're trying to make. The OP is trying to make it sound as though 800k children are disappearing without a trace every year in the USA -- which is patent nonsense.

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Reported missing especially with young people is quite inaccurate as to what OP is talking about; people who go missing not of their own accord .Police call them runaways to distinguish the difference.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Idaho
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"Bizarre?" It was sensationalized reporting done by a news station and not even sure when it was done, all to support someone who wrote a book and wants to profit from it (again, when was it written?).

Only 411 people missing in national parks and forests (including state and federal forests) in the past (how many) years, out of hundreds of millions of visitors that have visited these areas. What is unusual about that?

The last example of a six year old, missing in 1966. That is not unusual and in the middle of a forest a six year old could go missing in seconds and be lost for good; eventually ending up as dinner for some large cat or rogue bear, or even a bunch of coyotes.

Heck, when I lived in Moab, we had a guy who owned a skydiving business go missing one day and was not found for six months even though there was a massive search conducted for over a week, and his friend continued for a longer period...he was eventually found dead in a deep crack between large boulders off a major hiking trail. he hiked alone, never told anyone where he was going and paid the price. And he was within a ten minute walk of Moab's main street (hwy 191). (Anyone remember Aron Ralston...movie 127 hours...who was trapped in UT...people can disappear at any time in these types of areas.)

Also in Moab, a guy shoots a state Park Ranger, and disappears into Schafer canyon and after a two-week long search, by hundreds of law enforcement and SAR groups, is never found, even though there was quite a bit of evidence he had been shot. He (or his body) have never been found.

People disappear all the time in all locations from large cities to desolate lands; it is not unusual and certainly does not rate a conspiracy theory or a book written by someone with nothing to offer, except for those easily swayed by words and not by logic.

And I'll add, that the greater majority of these areas in the western states have large and dangerous predators that run on four legs. And in some cases, you will find some with two legs who are growing illegal substances and will do anything to prevent you from going further in life; not too many of the latter. And some areas in the eastern states have some decent size four legged predators too.
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Old 10-29-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge
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"Bizarre?" It was sensationalized reporting done by a news station and not even sure when it was done, all to support someone who wrote a book and wants to profit from it (again, when was it written?).

Only 411 people missing in national parks and forests (including state and federal forests) in the past (how many) years, out of hundreds of millions of visitors that have visited these areas. What is unusual about that?

The last example of a six year old, missing in 1966. That is not unusual and in the middle of a forest a six year old could go missing in seconds and be lost for good; eventually ending up as dinner for some large cat or rogue bear, or even a bunch of coyotes.

Heck, when I lived in Moab, we had a guy who owned a skydiving business go missing one day and was not found for six months even though there was a massive search conducted for over a week, and his friend continued for a longer period...he was eventually found dead in a deep crack between large boulders off a major hiking trail. he hiked alone, never told anyone where he was going and paid the price. And he was within a ten minute walk of Moab's main street (hwy 191). (Anyone remember Aron Ralston...movie 127 hours...who was trapped in UT...people can disappear at any time in these types of areas.)

Also in Moab, a guy shoots a state Park Ranger, and disappears into Schafer canyon and after a two-week long search, by hundreds of law enforcement and SAR groups, is never found, even though there was quite a bit of evidence he had been shot. He (or his body) have never been found.

People disappear all the time in all locations from large cities to desolate lands; it is not unusual and certainly does not rate a conspiracy theory or a book written by someone with nothing to offer, except for those easily swayed by words and not by logic.

And I'll add, that the greater majority of these areas in the western states have large and dangerous predators that run on four legs. And in some cases, you will find some with two legs who are growing illegal substances and will do anything to prevent you from going further in life; not too many of the latter. And some areas in the eastern states have some decent size four legged predators too.
I'm always skeptical when there's a book behind a particular report. It makes you wonder what the real agenda is. With that said people do vanish and some people do vanish in BIZARRE ways whether you agree or not. I don't care. There's no conspiracy about it. It could be animals, exposure or bad people as I pointed out in my first post of this thread. It could even be people wanting to go into the woods to live there for very long periods of time.

-Cheers.
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Old 10-30-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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Read the book: Missing 411-Western United States
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