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Old 11-08-2014, 02:59 AM
 
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Thinking back to a psychology class I took 20 plus years ago, we were discussing how hard we humans attempt to hold onto our beliefs, no matter how unrealistic. The subject of the belief in Bigfoot came up and the best argument brought up against the existence was not the lack of proof of a live Bigfoot, but the fact that nobody has ever produced any remains of a dead Bigfoot. This is a huge hominid, and nobody can produce a body, not even a bone.
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Thinking back to a psychology class I took 20 plus years ago, we were discussing how hard we humans attempt to hold onto our beliefs, no matter how unrealistic. The subject of the belief in Bigfoot came up and the best argument brought up against the existence was not the lack of proof of a live Bigfoot, but the fact that nobody has ever produced any remains of a dead Bigfoot. This is a huge hominid, and nobody can produce a body, not even a bone.
Humans get killed crossing our roads and we like to think of ourselves as the smartest animals! If these 'creatures' are so smart, that they have never been hit on our roads; why are a mess of dummies, making fools of themselves screaming their heads off, and chasing them around with flashlights! Perhaps we should leave copies of our SAT's in the woods and see if something scores perfect 1600's!
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Old 11-08-2014, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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If a North American wood ape species exists, the prevailing presumption seems to be it's omnivorous. And reported sightings/accounts almost always occur in heavily wooded water-rich areas, which could provide ample food and cover for a limited population:

source: Wood Ape Sightings: Correlations to Annual Rainfall Totals, Waterways, Human Population Densities and Black Bear Habitat Zones
An interesting article, though I've seen the rainfall correlation before. Most of this stuff is suggestive and my reaction to it is: there's enough material out there to support privately-funded research and attempts at finding bigfoot/wood apes/whatever, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. I haven't seen anything yet that would make me put the 10% odds of existence higher.
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Old 11-08-2014, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Humans get killed crossing our roads and we like to think of ourselves as the smartest animals!
Many animal species never get killed on a road, even when the roads are busy and the animals are plentiful. I've never seen a monkey killed on the road and I've never heard of a baboon being killed on the road. Humans on the other hand like to live dangerously.

As is pointed out in the article, finding remains of common large animals is rare in these locations. Yet I have found cattle remains in a very wet forest, probably not very old. But then we have cool wet winters and warm dry summers and things don't decay much in the cold or dry (not that dry in a forest even in the dry season). But considering the number of animals ina forest and the amount of hunting, the finding of skeletal remains is rare. Bones are quickly covered by leaf litter and decay quite quickly in a forest. How often do hikers and hunters come across bear remains in a forest?

One point to consider, if these creatures do exist and they are dying, they are likely to go to a quite, secluded and hidden spot to do so, just like cats and some dogs do (excluding city cats and dogs that have no choice).

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Old 11-08-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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What's the expiration date on ghosts, fairies, ufo's, angles, aliens, and visions of the Virgin Mary? A case can be made that Bigfoot falls into the same category. I don't know the answer to any of this. I can say that if I ever did see a bigfoot, that would mark the expiration date on my underwear
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:27 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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According to National Geographic 86% of the species on the planet have yet to be identified.

So, does it include bigfoot? Who knows, unindentified species and interbreeding?

Recently in news; we evolved from Neanderthal interbreeding 45,000 yrs ago, genetics show we all have at least 2% in our own genetics.



86 Percent of Earth's Species Still Unknown?

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Old 11-08-2014, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Many animal species never get killed on a road, even when the roads are busy and the animals are plentiful. I've never seen a monkey killed on the road and I've never heard of a baboon being killed on the road. Humans on the other hand like to live dangerously.
There are many animals that are very cautious about crossing or being in roads - like crows. But you still see them dead from time to time. I even ran over two crows many years ago. House cats are cautious about crossing our roads - but you still see them dead on the side of the road.

Lets pretend that Big Foot is not good with the birds and bees and that their population is very small. Of course the odds would be less of finding any road kill. But, when you consider the millions of vehicles on our roads and the miles traveled every year; there is still a very good chance that one would end up with tire tracks and a 'reportable'.

I used to travel 100,000 miles ever year as a commercial truck driver. I was always looking for wildlife or signs of wildlife to kill time. Pristine snow is a great way to see signs of wildlife in any area. How many times has this nocturnal, screaming, bigfoot hunting crew ever filmed tracks in the snow for miles? It would be easy to do with helicopters. You could follow the tracks right to the creature. Besides; not all of them hibernate for the winter - look at the good old Yeti.

Every year that goes by makes the odds of finding one less likely. It makes a good science fiction TV programs and it sells books. But you have to come up with solid proof if you want real believers.
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Old 11-08-2014, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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According to National Geographic 86% of the species on the planet have yet to be identified.

So, does it include bigfoot? Who knows, unindentified species and interbreeding?
Almost all of those will be single-celled organisms, insects, and plankton.

"God has an inordinate fondness for stars and beetles." -- J.B.S Haldane

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Recently in news; we evolved from Neanderthal interbreeding 45,000 yrs ago, genetics show we all have at least 2% in our own genetics.
What are you suggesting: bigfoot is a hybrid between humans and ... what? Eeeww.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:39 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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There are many animals that are very cautious about crossing or being in roads - like crows. But you still see them dead from time to time. I even ran over two crows many years ago. House cats are cautious about crossing our roads - but you still see them dead on the side of the road.

Lets pretend that Big Foot is not good with the birds and bees and that their population is very small. Of course the odds would be less of finding any road kill. But, when you consider the millions of vehicles on our roads and the miles traveled every year; there is still a very good chance that one would end up with tire tracks and a 'reportable'.

I used to travel 100,000 miles ever year as a commercial truck driver. I was always looking for wildlife or signs of wildlife to kill time. Pristine snow is a great way to see signs of wildlife in any area. How many times has this nocturnal, screaming, bigfoot hunting crew ever filmed tracks in the snow for miles? It would be easy to do with helicopters. You could follow the tracks right to the creature. Besides; not all of them hibernate for the winter - look at the good old Yeti.

Every year that goes by makes the odds of finding one less likely. It makes a good science fiction TV programs and it sells books. But you have to come up with solid proof if you want real believers.
You couldn't snow-track it with helicopters in heavily forested areas, especially evergreen forests. Not that I believe they exist, but just saying.
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Old 11-09-2014, 01:05 AM
 
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Almost all of those will be single-celled organisms, insects, and plankton.

"God has an inordinate fondness for stars and beetles." -- J.B.S Haldane



What are you suggesting: bigfoot is a hybrid between humans and ... what? Eeeww.
Regarding the undiscovered mentioned above, Yep! Vasily gets it.

As for Neanderthals to the OP, we have fossil evidence that they existed.
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