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Old 05-31-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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Visted an old sanitarium in the area walked the grounds being they are open to the public. I decided before leaving why not turn the voice recorder on the phone. It was a contaminated EVP being that it was outside. However, several points in the EVP can tell where the wind was heard. Oddest thing was that throughout the entire EVP was only minute or so long was a odd high pitch sound in the background. We heard nothing. Now two things occured during this point. One was we walked by a rope that started to swing slowly and then the wind hit the rope could see the fray strands moving. After the EVP walking back to the car noticed two sirens on the building. Didn't think much of it till later that night when listening to the EVP. Was odd how after EVP session we saw these two inactive sirens on the building's. The EVP sounded as these were going off, but if they did you would hear it.

Very interesting, but a challenge since it is in the open. Example a bird chirping could be heard during the EVP.
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Old 05-31-2015, 07:59 PM
 
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I'm skeptical towards EVPs. There have been a lot of psychological studies where what you hear, or think you hear, can be subtly influenced.
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Old 06-01-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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EVPs can be intentionally created and broadcast or be any communication swimming in the air
all around us. Were you near a cell phone tower ?
If an EVP is not in the human voice frequency range of approximately 85-255 hz
then it should be presumed to be of mechanical origin before it is assumed to be
of spiritual origin.
If you can't hear a spirit talking, then it's not a real spirit talking.
EVPs are the bread & butter of paranormal shows because they are easily created by mundane
human activity.
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Old 06-01-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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Near a generator about a few 100 feet or so away. Could be it.
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Old 06-01-2015, 07:31 PM
 
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Being involved with Evp since 1992, I can tell you with good authority that trying to pick up spirit voices from somewhere other than an interior source, with special monitoring equipment, is just about impossible.

People today are involved with much different equipment than what I started out with, and still use today, and I have yet to see any solid evidence of contact using a hand held digital recorder, or a cell phone.
Being outside only adds to the problem
There are just to many obstacles to interfere with making actual contact.

Over the years I have recorded many of those who have passed on, and each and every one was done in the quietness of a room in my house specifically equipped for recording.

Evp is not a game that one can play whenever they feel like it.
It is a serious endeavor that only those who are dedicated to serious intervention with the spirit world should engage in.

Many don't believe in evp, but I feel those are people who find it hard to believe anything outside of the norm
I for one know evp is extremely real.

One thing experience has taught me, one can only hear spirit voices under controlled conditions.
Only once in all my years of recording did I actually hear a voice without the aid of a headset.
Normally the spirit voice is so low (and seemingly at a distance) that one needs a headset to hear the voices.

One has to play the recording over many time to be able to pick up what is being said, so trying to hear a voice from the other side on a cell phone, or digital recorder is not going to happen, especially on the outside.

Only through experience, will a person recording be able to decipher what is actual voice, and what is background interference.
These foolish ghost hunting shows are just that, a foolish attempt at trying to make contact with the spirit world, using equipment not designed for the purpose.

My analysis of the op's encounter is, it was absolutely nothing close to a paranormal experience, especially when it comes to a cell phone for hearing spirit communication.

Bob.
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Old 06-02-2015, 05:42 PM
 
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I had an old rental house that I had some ghost hunters go through. They picked up one very clear EVP in the master bedroom that said "where's Bobby?".

Well, it happened that my renters that had moved out, had a cat named Bobby that loved being in the master bedroom.

Gave me the chills! And no, I did not know the ghost hunters and they didn't know my renters. I'm a believer now.
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Old 06-04-2015, 03:57 PM
 
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Being involved with Evp since 1992, I can tell you with good authority that trying to pick up spirit voices from somewhere other than an interior source, with special monitoring equipment, is just about impossible.

One thing experience has taught me, one can only hear spirit voices under controlled conditions. Only once in all my years of recording did I actually hear a voice without the aid of a headset. Normally the spirit voice is so low (and seemingly at a distance) that one needs a headset to hear the voices.

One has to play the recording over many time to be able to pick up what is being said, so trying to hear a voice from the other side on a cell phone, or digital recorder is not going to happen, especially on the outside.

These foolish ghost hunting shows are just that, a foolish attempt at trying to make contact with the spirit world, using equipment not designed for the purpose.

My analysis of the op's encounter is, it was absolutely nothing close to a paranormal experience, especially when it comes to a cell phone for hearing spirit communication.

Bob.


I agree with this, particularly the bolded section.

Bob, this made me recall this film: White Noise (2005) - IMDb. Is that the kind of setup (in general) one would need?

This also triggered a memory about Dr. Raymond Moody's work, which I only learned about in the early '90s. He's still alive and continuing to explore NDEs, more specifically, I think, than EVP, but he also uses the psychomanteum to greet those who have passed across: Psychomanteum

Would that kind of setup work, in your view? No need to go into your personal work; it just made me recall the kind of controlled environment/atmosphere and many hours of practice that would certainly be needed to come up with any valid results.

I just think anyone with a cell phone or AM-scrolling radio is misleading himself to hear things that "fit" but aren't of a spiritual nature at all.
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Old 06-04-2015, 11:43 PM
 
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I agree with this, particularly the bolded section.

Bob, this made me recall this film: White Noise (2005) - IMDb. Is that the kind of setup (in general) one would need?

This also triggered a memory about Dr. Raymond Moody's work, which I only learned about in the early '90s. He's still alive and continuing to explore NDEs, more specifically, I think, than EVP, but he also uses the psychomanteum to greet those who have passed across: Psychomanteum

Would that kind of setup work, in your view? No need to go into your personal work; it just made me recall the kind of controlled environment/atmosphere and many hours of practice that would certainly be needed to come up with any valid results.

I just think anyone with a cell phone or AM-scrolling radio is misleading himself to hear things that "fit" but aren't of a spiritual nature at all.
I never saw the movie, though I had heard of it.
Just the trailer alone that was on the link you provides shows me that "white noise" is a childish attempt at portraying things that do not exist.

As for Raymond Moody, his book "Life after life" was the original catalyst that got me interested in spiritual behavior, and everything else having to do with the spirit world.
His mention of Sarah Estep ( a pioneer in t he field of evp) did more for me in the field than anything else.
Using just her name, and the town she lived in, (long before I had a computer) I was able to contact her by telephone, and our first conversation was extremely informative.

She explained what equipment she used, and said it would work for me should I decide to get into the field.
At the time, her equipment was a bit out of my budget, so she told me of other equipment that would work, though the quality of the reception probably would not be equal to her equipment.

In Raymond Moody's book, he also stated that less expensive equipment could be used.
He gave instructions how to connect the recording equipment, and I took it from there.
Now one has to remember back then audio cassette was the least expensive product as opposed to a reel to reel setup.
I already had a radio that had a duel cassette system in it, and that would work.
All I actually had to purchase was cassette tapes a microphone, and a headset.
At the time, I also needed an aux electrical component source , which for that purpose I used a standard am/fm radio.

Today that aux component source could be a tv,or computer.
To understand the principal of evp, one needs to know how it works.
Notice I said how it works, not why it works.
I will tell you how I did my original setup, and explain my current setup as well.
First off, and perhaps the most important item is the place the recording is going to be accomplished.
In my house I have a larhe closet in one of the bedrooms that I use.
It is large enough to have a good size desk, as well as my equipment in it,
I am cramped by no means.

This area of the house if far removed from the rest of the house, and it is quiet, which it has to be if one wants to be successful at recording.
From this area, there are no outside distractions at all.
Now as for setting up my original system.
Again, it consisted of a duel cassette player recorder(which single would have done because only one cassette deck is ever being used.)
AN aux electrical component (in my case back then, a radio), and a stereo headset.
Now the simple connections:
None of the components are connected to one another in any way,except the headset is connected to the recorder.
However they are all connected to wall plugs in my recording area.

Now, the individual reason for each component, and it's function.
The recorder, obviously to record and playback.
The aux component(radio) is to transfer voice signal on to the cassette tape.
Stereo headset, so one can hear voice transmission.
As I state above I used a duel cassette/ radio as my recording/playback device, but the radio part of the unit is not , and could not be used as the voice transmission device, which is why I had to have a separate unit for that.

Today, I use a reel to real sy, but the system operates basically the same as my original system.
Now, the connections as stated are only plugged into wall plugs, and not to one another except the headset.
Before going further one finds themselves asking, what is the importance an aux component that is in no way connected to the recording system?
I wondered that myself until Ms Estep explained it's purpose.
It acts as the conduit for voice that will be picked up by the recorder.
Why and how this happens, I couldn't begin to explain, I only know it does.
So now it is time for a new recording session, and I will walk you through that.
First, and paramount,I always start a recording session with a small prayer, asking that only friendly spirits(again on the advice of Ms Estep) enter my recording session.
I will turn on the aux radio to a blank station)one not broadcasting), and turn the volume down to it's lowest level to the point I hear nothing.
This point on the radio is loosely termed, (white noise"

I start by welcoming those spirits that wish to join me in the session, then start the recorder.
I ask a question, wait about 15 seconds, then ask another, until I have asked three or four questions.
After the last 15 second pause, I play the tape back.
On the tape I can here the questions being asked, and if there is a response, it will follow the question I asked.
The reason for the headset is because responses are extremely faint, and more often than not the tape has to be rewound and replayed to adequately decipher voice.

Only once in all my years with evp, have I ever heard a voice without the aid of the headset, and frankly it scared the sh*** out of me because I was not expecting it.
The process works this way.
The questions are asked of the spirits, and a response from them is picked up by the aux component (radio), and transferred on to the tape.
Now as the radio, and recorder are in no way connected, I have no idea how this happens, I only know it does.

Modern physics dictates it would be physically impossible, but the fact is, it works.
I have since converted to reel to reel recording, but the principal is the same.
I have learned a great deal over the years, have contacted many in the spirit world, most I never knew, but some have been family members.

I will say, for someone just starting out with evp, it is not for the faint of heart, at lest at the beginning.
Sarah Estep told me I may not get a response quickly, and to be patient.
I had been recording five days before I had my first response, and that one absolutely was the most profound experience of my life.
It was a woman asking for help.
She kept repeating, "help me", Help me".
The hairs on my arms stood up as well as those at the base of my neck.
Emotionally I was scared, and elated at the same time.
I had contacted life on the other side.
You can't imagine how that felt.

I have much morei I could share with you on this subject, and spirits as well.
You can always send me a dm if you feel the need.

Bob.
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Old 06-05-2015, 02:31 AM
 
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Old 06-05-2015, 03:00 AM
 
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Modern physics dictates it would be physically impossible, but the fact is, it works.
I have since converted to reel to reel recording, but the principal is the same.
I have learned a great deal over the years, have contacted many in the spirit world, most I never knew, but some have been family members.

I will say, for someone just starting out with evp, it is not for the faint of heart, at lest at the beginning.
Sarah Estep told me I may not get a response quickly, and to be patient.
I had been recording five days before I had my first response, and that one absolutely was the most profound experience of my life.
It was a woman asking for help.
She kept repeating, "help me", Help me".
The hairs on my arms stood up as well as those at the base of my neck.
Emotionally I was scared, and elated at the same time.
I had contacted life on the other side.
You can't imagine how that felt.

wow, that's amazing that you have been able to communicate like this. Do you know why that spirit was crying out for help? Did she say anything else to you? Do they ever tell you where they are and give you more information about where they are now living?
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