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Old 06-11-2015, 03:59 PM
 
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There was a fire and brimstone, TV preacher who blamed California's earthquakes on the porn industry. Sounds a bit far-fetched. I suppose it's possible if they made a bunch of movies at the same time. All of that shaking could trigger some type of event.
Yeah but one is some crackpot attention seeking minister and the other is a government official.

In fairness though, anytime there is a tsunami or earthquake etc. a lot of crappy countries try to blame outside forces for their bad response.

Like the Malaysian Tsunami where they blamed the US and Israel (Jews) for detonating a nuke and causing the earthquake etc etc. when in reality they didn't spend anything on simple warning systems etc.
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Old 06-11-2015, 04:15 PM
 
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Well that's funny, because I blame it on their nurturing of Islamic Terrorists.

See: Aceh.
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Old 06-11-2015, 06:51 PM
 
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Four of the offenders have appeared in court on charges of indecent exposure. They are facing a possible sentence of up to three months in prison and a fine if convicted.


Four Western Tourists Face Prison For Alleged Nude Pics on Mount Kinabalu - NBC News
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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I dont know wether or not they caused the earth quake, but these idiots were told to respect local cultural traditions on the mountain. They still stripped and insulted their guide. What they need is a good caning.
I have no problem with this at all. There are too many people who think they can be disrespectful and suffer no consequences. I think that we need to be less excepting of poor behavior not encourage it.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:08 AM
 
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I have no problem with this at all. There are too many people who think they can be disrespectful and suffer no consequences. I think that we need to be less excepting of poor behavior not encourage it.
I agree that when some people (albeit just a few) behave disrespectfully in other countries, it can cause locals to have a negative view about all foreigners. The poor behavior of dunderheads is unfair to the majority of others who are at least mindful about local traditions and customs. I agree such individuals need to be held accountable for their actions. It is their responsibility to be aware of it.

In the case of the four who appeared in court, they've been ordered to be deported and fined $1,330(US). It's not clear when they will be deported. I'd say it's most likely they will never been allowed to visit the country again.

Although the notions held by locals in Malaysia, that the earthquake was caused by the act of nudity, is based on superstition and an attempt to find a reason for the quake, the act in itself was enough to generate a social quake, so to speak, especially when the photos of the act were posted on the internet to brag about it.

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"It is a wake-up call to tourists not to ignore local traditions and culture," Masidi Manjun, the state's tourism minister, told AFP.

"Since they pleaded guilty and showed remorse, it is only fair that they are let off with a fine by the court.
These people are extremely lucky to get off so easily. For some reason, the public nudity thing has occurred elsewhere in SE Asia, such as at the Angkor Wat historical site in Cambodia. The same issue of visitors being disrespectful in other countries has been seen in Egypt from tourists defacing ancient historical monuments. Even though the act of nudity was not the cause of the quake in Malaysia, it was insensitive to the customs and traditions causing an uproar by the locals. If these idiots had not posted the photos on the internet, no one would have known about it. They were tripped up by their own arrogant stupidity.

Malaysia to deport four Westerners over nude photos on sacred peak
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Old 06-12-2015, 01:12 PM
 
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Not to mention -- we should be respectful of customs of those in our own countries. I have the opportunity on rare occasion to go into Amish Country and what I see there is terrible. Yeah -- you might be on vacation but those people are living their lives and aren't Disney characters for you to "play" with. And bring something to cover up with...
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Old 06-12-2015, 06:06 PM
 
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Ok, there's things we don't understand, and its best not to push the limits.

Several years ago, on a trip to Hawaii, we brought home some island rocks. I knew the legend of Pele, the goddess of the volcanos. She didn't like being messed with! A curse would be placed on those who took her rocks!

Well, we scoffed at that. My DS found a rock the shape of the state of Michigan---I'm from Michigan---and spent half the day digging it out. We cleaned it up, and sent it home, using that special rate, whatever fits in a box for $8!

Problems began almost as soon as we mailed the rock. Our rental car broke down and we needed a tow. Then, the next day, I got sick. It was a combination of dehydration and too many meds not flushed through. I ended up in Straub hospital, treated and released, but found a nice bill when we came home!

Shortly after coming home, problems escalated. A "friend" turned us over to CPS, for nothing but drummed up charges, because she was jealous. The charges were eventually dropped, but big time expense for lawyer fees, stress, etc. Then, DH got laid off from his $130K job. Good thing we've had the habit of saving!

Eventually, you grasp at straws. I read about a service for those who stole the rocks. You could mail them back, and they would re-deposit them. Probably not at the place we got them, but anywhere would appease Madame Pele. Well, I felt rather foolish, but did so. We returned the rocks, along with a note of apology.Did our luck turn immediately better? No, but the bad stuff stopped happening.

Probably pure coincidence, but, like I said, there's stuff we don't understand!
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Old 06-12-2015, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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If these idiots had not posted the photos on the internet, no one would have known about it. They were tripped up by their own arrogant stupidity.
Perhaps it was the other strippers from the group who posted the photo's after they got home.
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:52 PM
 
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Perhaps it was the other strippers from the group who posted the photo's after they got home.
Yes, that's certainly possible. There's some thinking that some of the group managed to get out of the country. There may be more to the story than just stripping nude. Evidently the guide was indeed aware of what they intended to do and warned them not to. They allegedly called him stupid and told him to go to hell. The site is considered by locals as "the final resting place of their ancestors" and rituals are held there. However, the guide didn't report the incident for several days. I doubt the guide would have been able to give a clear enough verbal identification of anyone in the group had there been no photos of the incident. As it turned out it was a pretty stupid thing to do. Apparently public opinions are divided with some being outraged by the indecent exposure while others think they were just having some fun. Considering the outcome, how much fun is that? They're really lucky they're getting away with just a fine and deportation.
Warned not to strip, naked tourists allegedly told guide to
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Old 06-13-2015, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What was the temperature?
Maybe all the nudists were so cold that their shivering caused enough vibration to initiate the earthquake.
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