Spaceships of Ezekiel (aliens, lights, vision, ancient)

[303Guy]

OK this is not new but what was Ezekiel describing? What did he actually see or experience. The modern bible was translated way before powered flight, let alone space flight. It seems strange that someone from way back then would have hallucinated or dreamed it all. The same applies to the translators or the original compilers of the old testament. No magic mushroom or cobra poison is that powerful and they didn't have LSD back then.

[ocpaul20]

They had lots of hallucinagens(?) and have had since man started trying berries from the nearest bush.

There have always been soothsayers, visionaries, mediums, prophets, and all kinds of people who 'see' things and more recently even witches. In Scotland it is called 'second sight'. People have always been slightly afraid of and in awe of others who 'see' things and often these kind of people gather a following which gives them a status boost in the community.

I dont necessarily think the Ezekiel guy was making things up as he probably saw what he was describing but I do think it is odd that it has remained in the Bible for so long as part of the overall story of events. Particularly since it has been massaged and re-translated so much over the centuries.

Maybe he did see these things with his real physical eyes but it is more likely that he saw them with his 'inner vision' but either way he described what he saw for others to benefit from the experience.

There have been many modern day folk who have seen similar things in the skies but these days all the reports are taken with a pinch of salt - why, I dont know as there are enough people reporting these experiences for them to be taken seriously by the authorities. But... then some (including me) think the authorities know all about it already and just want to keep a lid on it till they are ready to disclose.

[incognitoe]

The spaceships belong to the Gods. We now refer to these beings as "Aliens".

Remember how people in those days were able to interact with these "Gods". It's not like today where people can't see, touch or talk to their "Gods".

So it's pretty safe to say that the Gods the ancients civilizations were worshiping were actually Aliens.

And further evidence can be found from the Sumerian Tablets. Which explains everything.

The "Gods" known as the Annunki came from a planet called Nibiru. They came to earth in search of Gold. The hated the labor and decided to make slaves.

"Let us make man in our image".

They created hybrids. Using their DNA and the ape like humans living on earth at the time, they created the first man. Adamu. (Adam of the bible).

The Sumerians even depicted our Solar system with amazing accuracies. Only difference from their depictions to ours? They included 2 extra planets. Nibiru and Pluto. Pretty amazing considering they didn't have the "technologies" we did. And Christians still thought the earth was Flat and that the Sun revolved around the earth!

[Drover]

Hmm... has that vaguely "spacey stoner mystical" quality that The Church would use as an album title...

Priest = Aura

Hologram of Baal

Magician Among the Spirits

Spaceships of Ezekiel ...?

[303Guy]

The church wouldn't dream of calling them 'spaceships'. Ezekiel isn't the only one to mention 'chariots' coming down from the north. Elijah was 'taken to heaven' in such a chariot. What could be behind these stories? They seem to be all over the ancient world.

An engineer used the description of Ezekiel's 'wheel within a wheel that went in all directions without turning' to design and patent such a wheel. Or so he claims. He did present the design and it was quite feasible.

So are we looking at early human magic mushroom inspired ingenuity?

[Mark S.]

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The people of Ezekiel's time were not stupid. If he had seen a big floating disc in sky, covered in lights, he would have called it "a big floating disc in the sky, covered in lights." If he had seen a blue whale, he might not have had the words "blue whale" to use (being a Middle Eastern Hebrew with no seafaring culture), but he would have called it a "beast of the Abyss" or "animal of the depths" or some such. He wouldn't have fallen to his knees and started babbling.

Human beings are born today with the same brains that human beings were born with 50,000 years ago. People of Ezekiel's time were not all primitive chest-beating savages ready to believe anything. At least no more so than us.

All of the Old Testament prophets wrote in symbolic language. In poetry. In metaphor. Don't try to make it literal. That would be like a historian 500 years from now trying to claim that 20th century metereology was based on hippies sitting in the field and listening to the breeze, just because they unearthed a copy of Bob Dylan's "Blowin' in the Wind."

[Vasily]

Originally Posted by incognitoe

And Christians still thought the earth was Flat and that the Sun revolved around the earth!

That's completely untrue, in both the Eastern and Western versions of Christianity. See:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

[Drover]

Originally Posted by 303Guy

The church wouldn't dream of calling them 'spaceships'. Ezekiel isn't the only one to mention 'chariots' coming down from the north. Elijah was 'taken to heaven' in such a chariot. What could be behind these stories? They seem to be all over the ancient world.

An engineer used the description of Ezekiel's 'wheel within a wheel that went in all directions without turning' to design and patent such a wheel. Or so he claims. He did present the design and it was quite feasible.

So are we looking at early human magic mushroom inspired ingenuity?

Eh, no... you see, there's a band from Australia called The Church, and... oh, never mind.

[Mark S.]

Originally Posted by incognitoe

Remember how people in those days were able to interact with these "Gods". It's not like today where people can't see, touch or talk to their "Gods".

So it's pretty safe to say that the Gods the ancients civilizations were worshiping were actually Aliens.

Remember how people in those days were able to talk to animals and even change into animals. It's not like today where animals can't talk and swans and wolves and such always stay the same. So it's pretty safe to say that animals used to be able to talk and morph into humans.

Or not.

Using mythology to try to rewrite history would be no different than people 500 years from now trying to rewrite our history by applying Bugs Bunny cartoons our understanding of taxonomy.

[Zero 7]

Originally Posted by incognitoe

The spaceships belong to the Gods. We now refer to these beings as "Aliens".

Remember how people in those days were able to interact with these "Gods". It's not like today where people can't see, touch or talk to their "Gods".

So it's pretty safe to say that the Gods the ancients civilizations were worshiping were actually Aliens.

And further evidence can be found from the Sumerian Tablets. Which explains everything.

The "Gods" known as the Annunki came from a planet called Nibiru. They came to earth in search of Gold. The hated the labor and decided to make slaves.

"Let us make man in our image".

They created hybrids. Using their DNA and the ape like humans living on earth at the time, they created the first man. Adamu. (Adam of the bible).

The Sumerians even depicted our Solar system with amazing accuracies. Only difference from their depictions to ours? They included 2 extra planets. Nibiru and Pluto. Pretty amazing considering they didn't have the "technologies" we did. And Christians still thought the earth was Flat and that the Sun revolved around the earth!

Safe to say they've returned. Don't think you can dismiss millions of sightings over the years. But, where is proof of Nibiru? It couldn't possibly escape the view of millions of astronomers.