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Old 01-26-2016, 10:32 AM
 
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That analogy is a swing and a miss. Humans adjusting to the introduction a more intelligent life form vs. restaurants reacting to an absence of beef and "the answer is the same"... Give me a break.
Break given. I stand by what I said. I have zero reason to think that humanity's major institutions would have serious trouble adapting to the knowledge that we aren't alone in the universe.
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Old 01-26-2016, 11:26 AM
 
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I have zero reason to think that humanity's major institutions would have serious trouble adapting to the knowledge that we aren't alone in the universe.
Well, what major religions here on earth could readily assimilate that knowledge? To most, we humans are the chosen favorites in a universe overseen by gods who are human in form & mannerisms. How long would they last if & when a bunch of aliens show up who state "Oh btw sillies - none of your human deities actually exist"? What if the aliens have no gods; or superior non-humanoid god/gods that actually exist and manifest themselves? Who's gonna listen to the Pope when Xenu's making his round-the-world debut tour?
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Old 01-26-2016, 11:46 AM
 
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Well, what major religions here on earth could readily assimilate that knowledge?
All the major ones --- Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism would have no trouble working extraterrestrial life into their theology. Some of the more fundamentalist sects might have trouble, but they're still having trouble with the Earth revolving around the sun. They are a minority, and I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about them.


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To most, we humans are the chosen favorites in a universe overseen by gods who are human in form & mannerisms.
All due respect, but I think you maybe need to stop basing your opinions on religion on the kooks on TV and actually do some reading.


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How long would they last if & when a bunch of aliens show up who state "Oh btw sillies - none of your human deities actually exist"?
You have zero reason other than your own biases to think that would be their response. They may well have long religious traditions of their own. Until the saucers land, it's all just speculation.


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What if the aliens have no gods; or superior non-humanoid god/gods that actually exist and manifest themselves?
And what if they do? Again, speculation.


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Who's gonna listen to the Pope when Xenu's making his round-the-world debut tour?
If Xenu really does show up, I suspect the Pope will be one of the first to greet him.
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:04 PM
 
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All the major ones --- Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism would have no trouble working extraterrestrial life into their theology.
And on what exactly do you base this claim? I myself think the dogmatic Abrahamic religions in particular will have problems digesting. Buddhists and Hindus, perhaps not so much.

All due respect, but I think you maybe need to stop basing your opinions on religion on the kooks on TV and actually do some reading.

Presumption and condescension? Okay yeah, that'll sway my opinion around to agree with yours. Good job.

You have zero reason other than your own biases to think that would be their response. They may well have long religious traditions of their own. Until the saucers land, it's all just speculation.

"Zero reason", huh? I've already offered the Spanish meeting the Aztecs as a real-life example of what can happen. And such scenarios have played out many many times in human history.


And what if they do? Again, speculation.

What's this thread about, and what's wrong with speculating?

If Xenu really does show up, I suspect the Pope will be one of the first to greet him.

And when Xenu says "you can stop worshiping God now and start worshiping me", what then?
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Looking at the mess our world is in, it seems over development is a precursor for extinction
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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Hi Woodrow!

Let me ask you: how would you, as a muslim, handle being told by aliens that Allah and Muhammed are fictions?
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:24 PM
 
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Why haven't we found aliens yet? Maybe they're all dead.


I've got some living right down the street from me!
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:26 PM
 
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And on what exactly do you base this claim? I myself think the dogmatic Abrahamic religions in particular will have problems digesting. Buddhists and Hindus, perhaps not so much.
The Abrahamic religions will have little problem digesting such knowledge. What makes you think they would?

Pope's Astronomer Guy Consolmagno Says 'Aliens Exist'



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Presumption and condescension? Okay yeah, that'll sway my opinion around to agree with yours. Good job.
My apologies if I offended, but based on a few things you've written, I get the impression you haven't actually done much reading on the dialogue between religion and science. You seem to be of the Bill Maher / Richard Dawkins stripe who likes the straw men. If that is a misconception on my part, I apologize.


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I've already offered the Spanish meeting the Aztecs as a real-life example of what can happen. And such scenarios have played out many many times in human history.
There has been so such scenario of proven extraterrestrial contact in history. But fine. If you can find an Aztec priest, I concede the point that he might possibly worship aliens. In fact, according to that wild-haired guy on the history channel, the Aztecs probably did worship aliens.


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And when Xenu says "you can stop worshiping God now and start worshiping me", what then?
Well, Xenu will have hardly been the first to tell that to the Church. The Church and the Jews are still here. Where is Caesar?
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:28 PM
 
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Hi Woodrow!

Let me ask you: how would you, as a muslim, handle being told by aliens that Allah and Muhammed are fictions?
And let me ask you: Why are you so convinced aliens would say any such thing? Your "what if?" is just a what if.
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:30 PM
 
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If Xenu really does show up, I suspect the Pope will be one of the first to greet him.
The catholic church owns and operates observatories and employs astronomers. Pope might show up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Observatory
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