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Old 08-25-2016, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Exactly. Follow the money.
a.) Exorcists are not paid.

b.) Priests are not rich. (Far from it in fact!)

c.) As for the televangelists ...
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Old 08-25-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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Is there a lot of money in demonology? Maybe I can moonlight.
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Old 08-25-2016, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Is there a lot of money in demonology? Maybe I can moonlight.
You can pick up coursework to enhance your resume here:

The American Institute of Metaphysics, Located in Atlanta Georgia
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Old 08-25-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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a.) Exorcists are not paid.
You cannot truthfully say that of all exorcists. Even the Catholic ones are getting money from somewhere.
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b.) Priests are not rich. (Far from it in fact!)
Again, I do not think you can truthfully say this of all priests. Even the current Pope had a problem with the wealth displayed when he became Pope.
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c.) As for the televangelists ...
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Old 08-25-2016, 05:16 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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You are correct. I have that right all along. I just decided to use it at that point.

Because I do not believe in your main point which seems to be that people cannot do mean spirited and selfish things and that they cannot be ignorant.

Even it there is a devil I do not think he really needs to help get killings and other crimes done. I personally feel it is a copout when people blame their actions on a higher evil force.

OK. No problem, but I still would like you to clarify what evil really is. Because I know of people who are jealous, scared, make a bad judgement, greedy, drunk, etc. that do things similar to what you describe in your post and I do not think it takes an evil force to make them do it.
Old Guard...

Asking to define evil isn't an unreasonable question, how the questions presented factors in;
representative of bad judgment made from bias and ego. We ALL have those aspects stated above, we also have control over whether we allow them to dominate our personality. What defines evil, total depravity, something completely out of ones control, you're a shell for use by forces we can't see. Aside from family members, only mental health care providers and psychiatry see these cases first hand to determine what falls into mental illness diagnosis or something 'other'; I think serious consideration should be taken in their judgment.
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:04 PM
 
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You cannot truthfully say that of all exorcists. Even the Catholic ones are getting money from somewhere.
Catholic priests are not allowed to accept money for their services. They are paid by the diocese (and it ain't much). Are there crooked priests out there who might take someone's money? Sure. But they are the exception, not the rule.
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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Old Guard...

Asking to define evil isn't an unreasonable question, how the questions presented factors in;
representative of bad judgment made from bias and ego. We ALL have those aspects stated above, we also have control over whether we allow them to dominate our personality. What defines evil, total depravity, something completely out of ones control, you're a shell for use by forces we can't see. Aside from family members, only mental health care providers and psychiatry see these cases first hand to determine what falls into mental illness diagnosis or something 'other'; I think serious consideration should be taken in their judgment.
Both of these have existed for over 100 years and document.


Yet there are very few that document demons and evil spirits.

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Catholic priests are not allowed to accept money for their services. They are paid by the diocese (and it ain't much). Are there crooked priests out there who might take someone's money? Sure. But they are the exception, not the rule.

“The hypocrisy of those consecrated men and women who profess vows of poverty, yet live like the rich, wounds the souls of the faithful and harms the Church,” Pope Francis


Also:




https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...atholic-church
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:48 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Both of these have existed for over 100 years and document.


Yet there are very few that document demons and evil spirits.
In the past, much of demonologys left strictly to theology and not heavily discussed. 'Few' can not be said with certainty.
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Old 08-25-2016, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Read the whole article. It's talking about the cardinals in Rome. Not your local priest. If you can find a rich parish priest who is getting rich by soaking his parishioners (or charging fees for exorcisms), I will hereby watch an episode of Dancing with the Stars as penance.
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Old 08-26-2016, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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Read the whole article. It's talking about the cardinals in Rome. Not your local priest. If you can find a rich parish priest who is getting rich by soaking his parishioners (or charging fees for exorcisms), I will hereby watch an episode of Dancing with the Stars as penance.
Of course the bottom level of the pyramid does not make as much as the top levels. But you work the bottom to get to the top.

The lavish homes of American archbishops

Pope Suspends German Bishop Over House Project - WSJ

This is not something I noticed. This is something that Pope Francis noticed.
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