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Old 08-27-2017, 07:08 AM
 
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I've read all the comments and she didn't really answer the question - just a bunch of lame excuses. I guess she's happy to have you back her up, though.

I have security cameras all around my house. It's not at all hard to go back and review what they record. No one would have to go through hours of video. You know when it happened after it happens, so all you have to do is watch the video at that particular time frame. Not hard at all to do.
This presumes that everyone feels the need to have their house riddled with security cameras.

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So I guess if I did catch something I would post it here. Only to share with others who are curious but honestly I would never use it to get rich or famous. Anyone who would do that would be highly motivated to fake it!
That's a good point.

Even though I'm a big believer in such phenomena, I also realize that
imagery can be doctored. The only real way to be convinced is to
experience these things for oneself.


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Old 08-27-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Second is a dear friend of mine had video taped a trip to New Orleans. At first they (her and her husband) were just filming their trip but when things started happening in their room they decided to record it. I saw the tape along with another friend. It was crazy! Cabinet doors were opening and closing while they slept. Their faucet would turn on by itself and they got that on film. She ended up posting it on YouTube but got so much flack with people claiming she had rigged the doors and the faucet that she ended up taking it down. Which sucked because it was the genuine thing.

So I guess if I did catch something I would post it here. Only to share with others who are curious but honestly I would never use it to get rich or famous. Anyone who would do that would be highly motivated to fake it!
Wow! That's quite a story! They actually caught the action on film, while they were asleep! And that IS freaky! I wonder--did they say anything to the hotel management? And I can't imagine how one would rig doors and drawers to open and shut on their own.

I'm still very curious about the science behind such things. How would "they" move stuff around like that, if they're in spirit form? Clearly, there's some kind of energetic factor at work, but that doesn't go very far as an explanation. I can't connect the rest of the dots. I regard this as one of the frontiers of physics.
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Old 08-27-2017, 07:28 PM
 
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Yeah that's where the science would go. Attempting to figure out what force was acting on the handles. Magnetic anomaly? Some sort of updraft? Wouldn't make the jump to attribute that to a spirit without extraordinary evidence.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:51 PM
 
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Yeah that's where the science would go. Attempting to figure out what force was acting on the handles. Magnetic anomaly? Some sort of updraft? Wouldn't make the jump to attribute that to a spirit without extraordinary evidence.
I'm willing to go that far--attributing it to a spirit presence. There have been enough examples of animals barking or hissing at seemingly nothing in houses reported to be haunted, or as someone said on a thread here--animals going into all-out avoidance after seeing/perceiving something, that I think there's something to the "spirit" theory.

What needs to be investigated somehow, is the properties of those spirit presences. How are they able to move things, and create noises? Do they have an electro-magnetic field? How could that be; what would it be based on? The human EM field is created by the electrical activity of the body's functions, but a "spirit" doesn't have a body to generate electricity. Consciousness? Is consciousness somehow tied in with electro-magnetism on a subtle level? But moving solid objects goes beyond "subtle".

Clearly, there's much that science doesn't know. ...yet.
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Old 08-28-2017, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Surfside Beach, SC
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This presumes that everyone feels the need to have their house riddled with security cameras.


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LOL - No, it doesn't "presume" anything. I have security cameras - exactly 4 of them, so my house is hardly "riddled with security cameras."

All she would really need is one, but as she said, she doesn't want to spend the money on that right now.

What is your problem? Do you just want to argue with someone? If that's the case, go find someone else, because I'm not in the mood for you and this is the last time I'm going to respond to any of your snarky comments.
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Old 08-28-2017, 08:16 AM
 
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LOL - No, it doesn't "presume" anything. I have security cameras - exactly 4 of them, so my house is hardly "riddled with security cameras."

All she would really need is one, but as she said, she doesn't want to spend the money on that right now.

What is your problem? Do you just want to argue with someone? If that's the case, go find someone else, because I'm not in the mood for you and this is the last time I'm going to respond to any of your snarky comments.
No need to get defensive.
And yes, that does seem like lot of security cameras.


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