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Old 04-01-2018, 09:44 PM
 
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The idea that the pyramids were built with alien aid raises a few pertinent questions like why are the stones so roughly cut and irregular in shape? And why in hell would an advanced being who has the technology to break the speed of light barrier and cross space to come to earth to stuff around building rough stone pyramids? Go figure.
Why do advanced people from America and Europe go wandering thru the Amazon rain forest or the primitive islands of the south Pacific?
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Old 04-02-2018, 06:23 AM
 
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The Great Pyramid was originally encased in white Tura limestone (from the ancient city of Tura). It is easy to polish to an high gloss using water and any abrasive stone. At night with a Full Moon, the entire Gizeh Complex would have been visible glowing off on the distant horizon.

The interesting thing about Sneferu's Pyramid at Maidum, is that it is a step-pyramid that was later covered with layers of bricks to make it appear as an actual pyramid, and as archaeologists noted, the bricks had all been white-washed.

Why would Sneferu want the bricks covering the step-pyramid painted white?

Because he was attempting to emulate something that already existed, namely, the Great Pyramid. If Sneferu is trying to copy something that already existed, then Khufu didn't build the Great Pyramid, since Sneferu was the father of Khufu.

But, then, we already knew that, since there is no evidence to support any claim that Khufu built the Great Pyramid. In fact, to the contrary, Khufu claimed he built a temple to Isis on the Pyramid Complex, and that he made repairs to the Great Pyramid, which is proof it already existed when he became pharaoh.

The above section was addressed to me, it's an interesting history lesson but I have no idea how it's relevant to my comment or this thread topic. What's your point?
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Old 04-02-2018, 07:08 AM
 
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Why do advanced people from America and Europe go wandering thru the Amazon rain forest or the primitive islands of the south Pacific?
To be the first, adventure, accomplishment and selfies? There is a big difference in exploring and building a needlessly primitive structure when you could teach the people to build more advanced structures more easily.
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Old 04-02-2018, 11:40 AM
 
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There are plenty of non-pyramidal stone structures which are up mountains and miles from the nearest river which could have delivered the stones. Do you really think these huge multi-tonne blocks of stone were hauled up the steep mountain by slaves? It took supposedly many many years to create these stone structures.

Pyramids are one thing because they are built on the level, but building such large structures and with such precision up a mountain is something that people on here cannot explain.
Examples, please?

What are mountains made of, btw? Oh, stone, you say? Well, what do you know! The very material those non-pyramidal structures are made of!

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Old 04-02-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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To be the first, adventure, accomplishment and selfies? There is a big difference in exploring and building a needlessly primitive structure when you could teach the people to build more advanced structures more easily.
Why aren't you in the south Pacific teaching the natives how to build a modern house?
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Old 04-02-2018, 06:09 PM
 
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Why aren't you in the south Pacific teaching the natives how to build a modern house?
What Natives?
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:49 PM
 
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Then you haven't studied pyramids.



If you're not willing to accept extra-terrestrial involvement, then you must accept the fact that an advanced civilization existed.

Archeoastronomy is a method of dating solstitial buildings, usually temples. There are many equinoctal temples and buildings -- oriented to eastern horizon on the days of the equinox. But, solstitial temples are oriented to the Summer Solstice, which changes over time due to the movement of Earth's axial tilt.

Based on archeoastronomy, Machu Picchu is dated at either 10,150 BCE or 4,050 BCE, when Earth's obliquity to the Plane of the Ecliptic was 24°6'52.8" looking at the Summer Solstice (the Winter Solstice for all points in the Northern Hemisphere).

Regardless of the date you choose, it's highly unlikely the Incas were responsible for Machu Picchu.
That's a big gap. How can give there be such a huge margin of error when dealing with artificial constructs? Think about it, that's 6000 years. Far older than most civilizations.
A 6000 year discrepancy would be acceptable and even expected in geology where we deal with events that took place millions of years of ago, but not here.

Think of it this way. What sounds more plausible? In which of the following scenarios would you tolerate the discrepancy?

a. A table with a width of 2m +- 10cm

or

b. A mountain with an elevation of 4000m +- 10cm
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Old 04-04-2018, 08:01 AM
 
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I don't believe it has to do with alien influence.. I think it's about the innate sensibilities of human beings.

Even when people develop in distant parts of the world, they often have similar ideas & desires. But who knows, I don't categorically rule out alien theories..
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Old 04-06-2018, 10:21 AM
 
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Based on archeoastronomy, Machu Picchu is dated at either 10,150 BCE or 4,050 BCE, when Earth's obliquity to the Plane of the Ecliptic was 24°6'52.8" looking at the Summer Solstice (the Winter Solstice for all points in the Northern Hemisphere).

Regardless of the date you choose, it's highly unlikely the Incas were responsible for Machu Picchu
Machu Picchu was built in the 15th Century AD by Inca ruler Pachacutic.
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Old 04-06-2018, 02:26 PM
 
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Archeoastronomy is a method of dating solstitial buildings, usually temples. There are many equinoctal temples and buildings -- oriented to eastern horizon on the days of the equinox. But, solstitial temples are oriented to the Summer Solstice, which changes over time due to the movement of Earth's axial tilt.

Based on archeoastronomy, Machu Picchu is dated at either 10,150 BCE or 4,050 BCE, when Earth's obliquity to the Plane of the Ecliptic was 24°6'52.8" looking at the Summer Solstice (the Winter Solstice for all points in the Northern Hemisphere).

Regardless of the date you choose, it's highly unlikely the Incas were responsible for Machu Picchu.
So the date could be EITHER. Or it could be neither. If either date could be wrong then both dates could be wrong. Their are probably natural rock formations that have similar alignments but what would that tell us? Only that at some point in time, the alignments happened to be so.

C-14 dating puts it at 1450 CE onwards. This coincides with the creation of the Inca empire.
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