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Perhaps playing into the skeptics hands with this one...
I was watching Ancient Aliens Series 12 Episode 4 and they seemed to be making a case for alien architects influencing the building of temples on different continents. The examples they gave the temple ruins at Cambodia Angkor Wat (left) and Guatemala's Tikal Ruins (right). This is a screenshot to illustrate the post but I encourage those who want to know more to try and find this episode (including the guy with the funny hair) online.
These temples both have very similar structures. Although different sizes, they both have a number of steps, central stairs, with a door-like opening at the top of the steps. They also both have a kind of dome on the top too.
Could these similar structures be just a coincidence? Both cultures attribute the design to a being who was taken into heaven and taught design, maths and sciences.
Nope. What you are seeing are good examples of Independent Parallel Development. Simply enough - a civilization at the same point of development, with the same or similar environment, and similar resources will develop the same technology. This has been proven again and again in the areas of science, medicine, weapons development...not just architecture.
In this case you have two cultures - Mayan and Khmer both at similar stages of development, in environments of mountains and rain forests. No surprise the structure would be similar. The pyramid itself, used as a monument, is a very basic structure, the simplest and strongest - taking minimal resources and labor compared to box shaped structures.
Keep in mind also that these two structures were not built in ancient times and also Angkor Wat was not built in a vacuum of civilization, but was inspired by Indianized monument standards that ranged from Pakistan to Indonesia at the time.
There are plenty of examples of civilisations which DO NOT develop in parallel, so it cannot be a 'rule' of development but something made up by archeologists to explain this phenomena.
Why would primitive cultures continue to live like they do with other advanced civilisations going on all over the world?
What you are descibing is somehow one civilisation somehow 'knows' the advancements made in other cultures in other parts of the world. Knows how exactly? What is the method this propagates across continents?
Your beliefs are no better or more real than the ones expressed in the OP.
There are plenty of examples of civilisations which DO NOT develop in parallel, so it cannot be a 'rule' of development but something made up by archeologists to explain this phenomena.
Why would primitive cultures continue to live like they do with other advanced civilisations going on all over the world?
What you are descibing is somehow one civilisation somehow 'knows' the advancements made in other cultures in other parts of the world. Knows how exactly? What is the method this propagates across continents?
Your beliefs are no better or more real than the ones expressed in the OP.
Let's take this one at a time - there are two hypothesis regarding scientific advancements which I am extending to civilizational advancement: 1.) "Independent development" (simultaneous invention) concept, which really just simply support the evolutionary theory of mankind back to when we were cells swimming in the ocean. 2.) And the "heroic theory" where there is one change agent - a genius that appears in the civilization and shakes everything up and enables a civilization to get to that next level.
As these are theories, it's a good topic for debate. The fact remains however that some technologies like the crossbow were developed at the same time by the distinctly different cultures of China, Greece, Africa, and even some N. American Indian tribes in the 4th century BC. You are right that some cultures stay primitive while other develop at a quicker pace and those again may be due to environmental conditions - for example the very fertile Nile region and the focused gathering of tribes in this area as a result of the desertification of north Africa allowed ancient Egypt to quickly advance over it's neighbors in ancient times.
HOWEVER, let's get back to the topic of UFOs and monuments. First of all we are not talking about the Egyptian pyramids, constructed over 4,000 years ago, but structures built during medieval times. These are not ancient structures. This is like saying The Tower of London was designed by aliens. Now I am not that familiar with the ruins of Tikal but Angkor Wat was not built in isolation. In the 12th century trade routes extended into Europe and throughout Asia. Angkor Wat itself was built to precise documented specification regarding Hindu temples, all with symbolic purposes, it's well documented and not subject to debate. To understand the temples of Angkor Wat, or any of the thousands of Indianized monuments scattered in central and southeast asia, you must understand Hinduism. I am not familiar enough with Mayan religion to compare and contrast but suffice to say Hinduism does not have any of the ritualistic human sacrifices or cannibalism that Mayan religion included. Frankly, I've never been to Angkor Wat but I've seen indianized temples all across India and Southeast Asia, including Khmer temples in Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam, and I've also seen pyramids in Mexico - besides them being pyramids (some of them at least, Angkor Wat includes a variety of structures), which is a very basic architecture form, I see little similarity.
So there is a lot being discussed above, but absolutely nothing related to UFOs. If you really wanted to be informed and wanted to compare and contrast - ditch the UFO theories and start with the religions of these two cultures. If your focus is on UFO's only then, well then, I guess I wasted a lot of text.
There are plenty of examples of civilisations which DO NOT develop in parallel, so it cannot be a 'rule' of development but something made up by archeologists to explain this phenomena.
Why would primitive cultures continue to live like they do with other advanced civilisations going on all over the world?
What you are descibing is somehow one civilisation somehow 'knows' the advancements made in other cultures in other parts of the world. Knows how exactly? What is the method this propagates across continents?
Your beliefs are no better or more real than the ones expressed in the OP.
What he is describing is form follows function. So not every culture builds pyramids. That is fine. Not all cultures have the materials or the man power or even the desire to build a pyramid. This is not unusual. But the one universal is gravity works virtually the same everywhere on earth, or at least where these cultures are located.
What you are putting forth as proof of advance alien life visiting earth is basically a pile of debris. While not all cultures built pyramids there are some that built mounds of dirt.
A pyramid is a primitive structure barely more advanced than a mound of dirt.
You are trying to tell us that advanced civilizations invented flight, space travel and ways to visit earth without leaving behind any trace to give our primitive forefathers the gift of piles of rubble and dirt.
Yeah, I am skeptical. If early humans all over the world were building skyscrapers than I would be on board.
The gift of piles of dirt.
SUPER SECRET PROOF OF ALIEN LIFE. PLEASE DO NOT REDISTRIBUTE!
What he is describing is form follows function. So not every culture builds pyramids. That is fine. Not all cultures have the materials or the man power or even the desire to build a pyramid. This is not unusual. But the one universal is gravity works virtually the same everywhere on earth, or at least where these cultures are located.
What you are putting forth as proof of advance alien life visiting earth is basically a pile of debris. While not all cultures built pyramids there are some that built mounds of dirt.
A pyramid is a primitive structure barely more advanced than a mound of dirt.
You are trying to tell us that advanced civilizations invented flight, space travel and ways to visit earth without leaving behind any trace to give our primitive forefathers the gift of piles of rubble and dirt.
Yeah, I am skeptical. If early humans all over the world were building skyscrapers than I would be on board.
The gift of piles of dirt.
SUPER SECRET PROOF OF ALIEN LIFE. PLEASE DO NOT REDISTRIBUTE!
LOL,
Yeah it's almost like putting forth the proposition that because different civilizations independently came up with the concept of a round shaped wheel, that it must have been introduced by aliens otherwise others around the world would build square-shape, triangular-shaped, and rectangular-shaped wheels.
Really this concept around pyramids, built in truly ancient times (not the 12th century) has been discussed many times before in this forum. Archeologists like to call these guys that proclaim some mystical or alien explanation to pyramids as - "pyramidiots".
Could these similar structures be just a coincidence? Both cultures attribute the design to a being who was taken into heaven and taught design, maths and sciences.
You're right. No human being would stack rocks like this.
Really, the best archeology can be is a bunch of theories.
Guessing what something was used for is fun but is not really scientific at all and it is no good pretending it is. Dating objects is rather a hit-and-miss affair. Stones cannot be dated and Carbon dating is only good for certain types of materials, also there is a huge margin for error.
Elongated skulls without central sutures are all passed off as head binding but known head bound people do not have missing central sutures because they are still human in spite of the skull similarities.
So, I would say many anomalies are ignored or another theory is made up to account for it.
How does archeology account for the knowledge of the stars and the rotations of the planets ?
Really, the best archeology can be is a bunch of theories.
I can tell that you watch Ancient Aliens, your posts are very similar. Sure it CAN be a bunch of theories but what is wrong with that? You have a theory that an advanced sentient life form crossed space, taught early humans to build piles of rock and dirt and then left for some unknown reason leaving no trace.
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Guessing what something was used for is fun but is not really scientific at all and it is no good pretending it is. Dating objects is rather a hit-and-miss affair. Stones cannot be dated and Carbon dating is only good for certain types of materials, also there is a huge margin for error.
But it is something to base theories on. You look at pictures of something on Mars and declare them blueberries despite the fact that there is not proof of life on Mars let alone the need for a plant like a Blueberry which would need birds to make those berries worthwhile.
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Elongated skulls without central sutures are all passed off as head binding but known head bound people do not have missing central sutures because they are still human in spite of the skull similarities.
Are you a doctor? Have yo examined these skeletons? What are you basing your conclusions on? Are you open to peer review or are you above what you do to others?
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So, I would say many anomalies are ignored or another theory is made up to account for it.
Wait? Is there something wrong with this? Because this is exactly what I believe you do.
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How does archeology account for the knowledge of the stars and the rotations of the planets ?
That is easy. Observation. They did not have gameboys and TV's and computers. They had a lot of time to look at the sky. And it was not one lifetime, but many, many, many lifetimes.
You're right. No human being would stack rocks like this.
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