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Old 09-05-2017, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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For someone who doesn't believe, you sure are familiar with the BF community... It's OK, SHHH! I won't tell anyone! ::wink-wink::
As I've said many times in this forum (and as other people believers like to label skeptics) I've had an interest in cryptozoology since the 1960s and have followed it since. It always amazes me that if anyone questions claims in this forum they're immediately labeled non-believers and even accused of being government plants (which has happened to me a few times).

And as I have said before multiple times, I would have given a better than 60% chance back in the 1970s that there was a real unknown animal behind the bigfoot sightings. Given what I've seen in the decades since, I now would give a 5-10% chance at best. The evidence just doesn't support a higher likelihood than that, in my opinion (and as I've said, I'd give a better than 60% chance that thylacines are not extinct on the Australian mainland based on the evidence -- which is what I go by rather than wishful thinking).

Pretty strange labeling that as non-belief -- thinking something is highly unlikely isn't defined as unbelief in my dictionary. A lot of the people here who are labeled non-believers would like nothing better than to have proof in hand that (say) a descendent of Gigantopithecus or whatever is roaming the North American continent -- but in our opinion, the solid evidence isn't there.
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Old 09-05-2017, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Maine
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A lot of the people here who are labeled non-believers would like nothing better than to have proof in hand that (say) a descendent of Gigantopithecus or whatever is roaming the North American continent -- but in our opinion, the solid evidence isn't there.
Yep. I would gladly adopt one, and I promise you he would sit in the passenger seat everywhere I drove. There is not a boy born after 1970 that doesn't want his own Chewie.

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Old 09-06-2017, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Yep. I would gladly adopt one, and I promise you he would sit in the passenger seat everywhere I drove. There is not a boy born after 1970 that doesn't want his own Chewie.
Only if I had some really strong air freshener and BF was toilet trainable.
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Old 09-06-2017, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Only if I had some really strong air freshener and BF was toilet trainable.
If clans of 8 ft primates have managed to escape undocumented for 300 years, they are obviously intelligent --- and obvious masters at hiding their poo.

The rest is easy to fix:

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Old 09-06-2017, 07:44 AM
 
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As I've said many times in this forum (and as other people believers like to label skeptics) I've had an interest in cryptozoology since the 1960s and have followed it since. It always amazes me that if anyone questions claims in this forum they're immediately labeled non-believers and even accused of being government plants (which has happened to me a few times).

And as I have said before multiple times, I would have given a better than 60% chance back in the 1970s that there was a real unknown animal behind the bigfoot sightings. Given what I've seen in the decades since, I now would give a 5-10% chance at best. The evidence just doesn't support a higher likelihood than that, in my opinion (and as I've said, I'd give a better than 60% chance that thylacines are not extinct on the Australian mainland based on the evidence -- which is what I go by rather than wishful thinking).

Pretty strange labeling that as non-belief -- thinking something is highly unlikely isn't defined as unbelief in my dictionary. A lot of the people here who are labeled non-believers would like nothing better than to have proof in hand that (say) a descendent of Gigantopithecus or whatever is roaming the North American continent -- but in our opinion, the solid evidence isn't there.
I disagree, there are just too many sightings and reports over the years.

As a civilization, mankind is not that advanced, only 5% of our oceans have been explored, we are still driving around in internal combustion powered vehicles, computer technology is fairly recent and still fairly primitive. People 100 years ago thought they had it all figured out too, and I guarantee, 100 yrs from now, they will think the same thing.

Im sure there are many many things we do not yet understand or recognize that are going on around us.
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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I disagree, there are just too many sightings and reports over the years.
"Seeing Fairies: From the Lost Archives of the Fairy Investigation Society, Authentic Reports of Fairies in Modern Times", Marjorie T. Johnson and Simon Young (available on Amazon).

There are plenty of sightings and reports of fairies, too - as well as trolls, gnomes, leprechauns, and other paranormal creatures. Just because there's a lot of stories and reports doesn't mean something is true. Or if it does, you have to believe the world is full of fairies, trolls, gnomes, and so on.
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Old 09-06-2017, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Maine
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...only 5% of our oceans have been explored, we are still driving around in internal combustion powered vehicles, computer technology is fairly recent and still fairly primitive.
What does any of that have to do with Bigfoot??? Bigfin might be possible. Bigfoot? The case is not looking too strong.


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People 100 years ago thought they had it all figured out too, and I guarantee, 100 yrs from now, they will think the same thing.

Im sure there are many many things we do not yet understand or recognize that are going on around us.
Agreed. But that doesn't make Bigfoot any more plausible. Non-proof is not de facto proof.
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Old 09-06-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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Are you guys still poo pooing the existence? Give it up.Go out for yourself and spend a night in the woods with no fire and go down in some local to you river bottoms.
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Old 09-06-2017, 05:57 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Are you guys still poo pooing the existence? Give it up.Go out for yourself and spend a night in the woods with no fire and go down in some local to you river bottoms.
Have you done that? How did it work out?
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Old 09-06-2017, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Are you guys still poo pooing the existence? Give it up.Go out for yourself and spend a night in the woods with no fire and go down in some local to you river bottoms.
That's called a snipe hunt.
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