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The color doesn't match but if you look at the features and hairline against a still of "Patty's" face from the Patterson-Gimlin film, there's a lot of similarity.
"You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." -- my grandmother
Have you looked at the enhanced Patterson footage? That one on Coast to Coast removes any doubts. It is everything from the monster turning to look at the camera. Wildlife doesn't operate that way. If it thought or smelled somebody and confirmed there were humans; it would have ran out of sight. The turn was more like: OK; your there and your filming (so I do not have to do this again)!
There are the feet and the fur that ends abruptly; nature doesn't build animals like that. Or with white hands one a dark animal. Then it still has the upper costume that turns differently than the lower section. Plus there are a few scenes that look like the costume is moving over the leg.
It just has too many things wrong to be a Holy Grail. They have to do better than that! Where are all the great trail camera shots?
You don't know squat about these creatures. You just assume so much. These creatures are not like any others. Get off your rear and get out in areas not in your house or on a computer.
A friend of mine summed you naysayers up.
What does it matter what they say; they don't do anything anyway.
We don't care what you think.
I think tere are more of these creatures than we have any idea. Definitely in Idaho as well.
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Yeah, we’re just making it all up and expecting you to believe us. You can relax and trust your uninformed common sense. No need to waste a bunch of time and effort trying to fathom what we are sharing with you.
I haven't ever been to Idaho but i hear there are quite a few of these creatures up that way.
You and the other believers don't own this forum, and the rest of us aren't going to shut up or stop posting because you don't like what we have to say. Sorry about that.
You and the other believers don't own this forum, and the rest of us aren't going to shut up or stop posting because you don't like what we have to say. Sorry about that.
I am not saying anything like that at all. I have no right to tell you that nor any intention. It is assumed on this forum the they exist. You have the right to refute that. A good question is as to whom you are trying to convince that they don't exist! We whom are in the know about these creatures for the most part don't care what you think. We don't hassle you about anything you believe in do we? I don't care what you say and it is not that i don't like what you say it is that what you say does not me anything to us that do believe.
You have your right but i am puzzled why so many like to tell they don't exist when we believers are so much past that. We believers cannot get past that with you naysayers that so subtly want to make fun of us.We want to talk about what they do etc not whether they exist or not. I have posted quite a few factually backed up items and you naysayers just ignore them.
I posted a photo of a BF we call green eye because he has green eyes and quite a few naysayers ignore the fact that Black Bears don't have green eyes or they say it is Photo shopped.
i ask you as to why you keep posting on these BF threads?As for you i ask you as to why you keep posting on these BF threads? We believers don't care what you naysayers thing and your repeats just keep other believers from posting.
WHY? i ask you as to why you keep posting on these BF threads? The BFRO sell outings to go BF researching and i have offered several a free trip and i get not takers just static. Remember NO GUTS NO GLORY.
I have read quite a bit about BF in IDAHO around Reservations.
I posted a photo of a BF we call green eye because he has green eyes and quite a few naysayers ignore the fact that Black Bears don't have green eyes or they say it is Photo shopped.
I don't know whether you ever responded to this photo posted by Woof in 2015 because I don't want to wade through the hundreds of replies that followed:
i ask you as to why you keep posting on these BF threads?As for you i ask you as to why you keep posting on these BF threads? We believers don't care what you naysayers thing and your repeats just keep other believers from posting.
WHY? i ask you as to why you keep posting on these BF threads? The BFRO sell outings to go BF researching and i have offered several a free trip and i get not takers just static. Remember NO GUTS NO GLORY.
Those of us who are skeptics have answered this question many times over the past several years. Because we're interested in these topics. As I've said several times in the past, my interest in cryptozoology goes back to the mid 1960s, when I first read Heuvelmans "On The Track of Unknown Animals". That means an interest in unknown animals that are flesh and blood, not interdimensional alien pets or demonic entities. I don't believe bigfoot at this point is a flesh and blood animal (I've detailed reasons for this a number of times in the past - but as other skeptics have said, I would be overjoyed if there were definitive proof of the existence of an unknown primate). Further, I don't see any reason to believe they're pets of interdimensional aliens, and if you get enjoyment from cavorting around the woods consorting with unbodied things that may or may not be demons, count me out.
I am not saying anything like that at all. I have no right to tell you that nor any intention. It is assumed on this forum the they exist. You have the right to refute that. A good question is as to whom you are trying to convince that they don't exist! We whom are in the know about these creatures for the most part don't care what you think. We don't hassle you about anything you believe in do we? I don't care what you say and it is not that i don't like what you say it is that what you say does not me anything to us that do believe.
You have your right but i am puzzled why so many like to tell they don't exist when we believers are so much past that. We believers cannot get past that with you naysayers that so subtly want to make fun of us.We want to talk about what they do etc not whether they exist or not. I have posted quite a few factually backed up items and you naysayers just ignore them.
I posted a photo of a BF we call green eye because he has green eyes and quite a few naysayers ignore the fact that Black Bears don't have green eyes or they say it is Photo shopped.
i ask you as to why you keep posting on these BF threads?As for you i ask you as to why you keep posting on these BF threads? We believers don't care what you naysayers thing and your repeats just keep other believers from posting.
WHY? i ask you as to why you keep posting on these BF threads? The BFRO sell outings to go BF researching and i have offered several a free trip and i get not takers just static. Remember NO GUTS NO GLORY.
I have read quite a bit about BF in IDAHO around Reservations.
According to your BFRO maps I have just as many chances to see one close to our house as I do if I wasted my time coming to you! It isn't only that; but why would I want to go to an area that might be a setup for a hoax? All the information suggest that they can be seen just about anyplace in the US - unless you want to tell me that information is false?
This is what you have done for years; you try to tell others that the burden of proof is on the skeptics and not on the believers. We are not making these claims - you are responsible for the evidence.
Start off with some good clear trail camera videos and then get us some solid evidence. Now they can look for DNA in the soil of caves. Supposedly your BF shy away from people in the daylight (unless they are posing for the classic Patterson shooting). If they are hiding during the daytime; they are in a nest or cave. If they are in a cave you can test that soil for the BF DNA. If they are in a nest; there are hairs left behind. Both cases would provide a good start for an official investigation. But, in all this time, you have a big hairy creature that never looses a hair or takes a crap!
WHY do you persist in trying to convince people that don't care what you think?
We care about what you have experienced; but we want proof. We would all have deeds for the Brooklyn Bridge if we believed everybody. Several times a day we get calls trying to sell us something we don't want; we would not have one penny left in any of our accounts if we did not question these sales people. Do you buy from everybody that calls your house? It is healthy and smart to question.
You have been 'selling' BF for how many years? If you do not care what we think or believe; why do you persist? You talk about seeing these creatures as if it is a common occurrence. If that is the case; get some good pictures, get some hair, get some poop, get something to back up your claims. Without any evidence of these 'common occurrences' that you experience we do not know if you are on drugs, if you have a vested interest in BF promotion, if you suffer some form of illness, or if you do indeed see what you claim you see.
If you know where these creatures will be; where are your trail cameras? Trail cameras are better than they have ever been, the batteries last longer and many are very reasonable today. Heck; I would string some small pieces of barbed wire to try and get a hair sample. You could staple just small sections of barbed wire to trees and saplings close to any area that they are known to visit. For about $52 you can buy 1320 feet of this wire. Like I said in my last post; it does not take a lot to get a DNA sample today. Put some evidence in your claims and you will see your skeptics become believers.
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