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Old 04-03-2018, 09:52 AM
 
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The problem is, there is way too much incentive in having majority of people believe one 'official' creation story over another. If you really wanted to exert an extreme level of control over a population, deceiving them about the origins of life would be a perfect way to start, look at how beneficial it has been for organized religion!

Not to mention, all these 'God given laws' we are inclined to follow, of course they also benefit a secular society too, thou shalt not kill, not steal, not covet your neighbors goods, pay your taxes, be a good citizen, OBEY, etc etc.
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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The problem is, there is way too much incentive in having majority of people believe one 'official' creation story over another. If you really wanted to exert an extreme level of control over a population, deceiving them about the origins of life would be a perfect way to start, look at how beneficial it has been for organized religion!

Not to mention, all these 'God given laws' we are inclined to follow, of course they also benefit a secular society too, thou shalt not kill, not steal, not covet your neighbors goods, pay your taxes, be a good citizen, OBEY, etc etc.
This is only one side of it. Fine, I respect that. But there still is no evidence that there are sentient aliens visiting earth to be hidden.
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Old 04-16-2018, 03:02 PM
 
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Mars has never been in the "habitable" zone during the age of hominids on earth.

And it won't be until long after all life on earth has been fried away.
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Old 04-16-2018, 10:22 PM
 
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Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus.
And it's hard to decide which one has the penis.

Bob.
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Old 04-17-2018, 02:07 AM
 
Location: UK
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And it's hard to decide which one has the penis.
And...moving swiftly on to another subject...

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But there still is no evidence that there are sentient aliens visiting earth to be hidden.
OK, so who do you think is piloting these huge black triangles and cigar-shaped craft around the skies?
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Maine
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The time has finally come for this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M63vCzCGwX0
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:20 AM
 
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This is only one side of it. Fine, I respect that. But there still is no evidence that there are sentient aliens visiting earth to be hidden.
Really? There is an overwhelming amount of evidence there have been thru out history and up to this day.

I can link 100s of FOIA documents that mention them or refer to them in some way, going back decades. Govt/ military refer to them as EBEs, UAPs, CBEs, 'Santa Claus', Fastwalker, Archons, etc.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:25 AM
 
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OK, so who do you think is piloting these huge black triangles and cigar-shaped craft around the skies?
Nobody and nothing because I do not think they are what you are saying they are. Personally I am more interested in your agenda since it only questions Western governments and specifically the US and never the Chinese or Russian governments. I sometimes wonder is this is some kind of misinformation campaign.
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Old 04-19-2018, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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Really? There is an overwhelming amount of evidence there have been thru out history and up to this day.

I can link 100s of FOIA documents that mention them or refer to them in some way, going back decades. Govt/ military refer to them as EBEs, UAPs, CBEs, 'Santa Claus', Fastwalker, Archons, etc.
On one hand I feel what you often feel is "proof" never was intended in the way it is being twisted by some people today and on the other hand I feel people are failable so that even though there may seem to be a lot of evidence out there it is such a minute sample size after figuring the amount of people hours over such long periods that it is literally insignificant. Believers tend to make mountains out of mole hills but when planets block their way ignore or dismiss them.
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Old 04-20-2018, 03:33 AM
 
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It might have microbial life but not anymore than that. That's because Mars gets less sun and takes 2 earth years to circle the sun.

Even if it had an atmosphere, it's still too cold unless it had some kind of greenhouse gas that can keep the temps higher but that would mean no oxygen but other gases that aren't supportive of complex lifeforms.

The only possibility of life on mars was that when the planets were formed, earth and mars were both still very hot but mars was able to cool down quicker because it is further out and it's able to support an ocean due to geothermal heat. It probably had a thicker atmosphere at one point but lost it probably due to being struck by a large asteroid or comet.
Opinions, opinions. If you are going to suggest that only humans might be able to live there, then you might be correct. However, if some other being was to settle there, then the same human limitations do not apply, do they?. Why would you assume that ALL beings are human-like? They may have 2 arms and 2 legs but not necessarily the same body physiology. There are reptiles on Earth which need to warm up in the sun before they can move about. There are millions of planets and millions of different environments each producing its own unique physiology tailored to the beings on that planet.

All this assumes we are being told the truth by the data which is presented to us.

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...but lost it probably due to being struck by a large asteroid or comet.
How do we know this? Evidence in the rover images (assuming they really do come from the surface of Mars) suggest there was a war of sorts, so your suggestion about the asteroid or comet may not be correct.
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