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Old 04-26-2019, 01:31 AM
 
Location: PRC
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...Proofs must stand on their own merit.
Yeah, yeah. Except when it suits science. There is more 'proof' of ghosts than there is of anything coming from space which comes from only about 5 different original sources - NASA being one. Across history many many people have studied ghosts and the paranormal. Just because something cannot be replicated reliably does not mean it is invalid and does not constitute 'proof'. We just need another definition of 'proof' thats all.

Data about ghosts etc exists but it is unacceptable to most scientists like yourself because it does not fit in with your beliefs and it triggers your fears. Unfortunately, proof appears to mean different things to different people in the scientific community.

As an example: How do we investigate "sciences" which have events which cannot be replicated? Can we call the people who do the investigating "scientists" and if so, then how do they apply the scientific method to their science? What is 'proof' to them? Is it good enough for other scientists who investigate the harder, more physical sciences?
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Old 04-26-2019, 07:10 AM
 
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There is more 'proof' of ghosts than there is of anything coming from space which comes from only about 5 different original sources - NASA being one.
In my case, I've seen more evidence of the supernatural than
of about 90% of the stuff 'the news' says is allegedly going on.

Yet, it usually plays out like this:

News Headline: "XYZ is happening in Timbuktu!"
General response: "Must be true!"
Neighbor: "I saw a shadow-figure in my room."
General response: "Prove it!"




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Old 04-26-2019, 11:20 AM
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Location: The New England part of Ohio
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There's no need to prove anything. You've either seen or experienced something out of the ordinary, or you haven't.

I have no need to convince anyone of anything. I don't try to.
This. ^^^^. Plus
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Old 04-26-2019, 02:08 PM
 
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Yeah, yeah. Except when it suits science. There is more 'proof' of ghosts than there is of anything coming from space which comes from only about 5 different original sources - NASA being one. Across history many many people have studied ghosts and the paranormal. Just because something cannot be replicated reliably does not mean it is invalid and does not constitute 'proof'. We just need another definition of 'proof' thats all.

Data about ghosts etc exists but it is unacceptable to most scientists like yourself because it does not fit in with your beliefs and it triggers your fears. Unfortunately, proof appears to mean different things to different people in the scientific community.

As an example: How do we investigate "sciences" which have events which cannot be replicated? Can we call the people who do the investigating "scientists" and if so, then how do they apply the scientific method to their science? What is 'proof' to them? Is it good enough for other scientists who investigate the harder, more physical sciences?
Actually, when science has an event that can’t be replicated, they figure out why and how.

Look up cold fusion.

They somehow did it once, and no one, including them, could make it happen again, and cold fusion is now considered dead.
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Old 04-27-2019, 03:13 AM
 
Location: PRC
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Actually, when science has an event that can’t be replicated, they figure out why and how.
Really? Just because you can point to one example, does not help science figure out why and how they can make paranormal events repeatable.

Consciousness is not predictable as far as I know, but maybe it has become so.
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Old 06-12-2020, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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It's now June 2020.

Did anyone see the new Ghost Adventures episode that just aired last night where Zak & his crew stay in the haunted museum during this COVID time? I didn't see it just yet, but recorded it. It looks like it will be a new little series.

Thoughts?
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Old 06-17-2020, 02:55 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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I think he's the guy in that ghost-hunting show where
they said "dude" alot. That's all I remember (and the
way I remember it ).


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You mean Scooby Doo.
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