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Old 04-17-2019, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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If there were a non-human civilization on earth eons ago, would we be able to recognize it in the geological record? And if so, how? The paper proposes tests to distinguish the traces of an ancient industrial civilization from natural causes.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.03748
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:55 PM
 
Location: PRC
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Not sure about eons ago, but there are plenty of crazy people like me who believe there were (and are) non-humans on Earth. There are legends of civilisations living under the ground where they fled at the time of the flood(perhaps) or maybe at the time of the battle event described in the Indian religious texts. It is all largely according to what 'evidence' you are able to believe. Some people believe there are even some non-humans living under the sea or lakes. If you have technology that is far advanced compared to ours, there is no reason why there should not be.

There are many artifacts around which suggest ancient non-human races live(d) here which have come from ancient strata, but how do you prove a civilisation existed by examining rocks? If you mean by fossils etc then yes there are many artifacts which have been uncovered. Deniers will say they are all fakes, so how is anything ancient to be verified?

As far as I am concerned, archeology is a load of twaddle anyway, with 'scientists' making up stuff to fit the artifacts found. Anyway, I am not an expert so my opinion does not count.
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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Deniers will say they are all fakes, so how is anything ancient to be verified?
That's what the article is about.
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Old 04-18-2019, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Not sure about eons ago, but there are plenty of crazy people like me who believe there were (and are) non-humans on Earth.
It's not so crazy. It falls within the realm of plausibility.

I have no issue at all with Evolution, but I do have issues with Human Evolution.

Humans evolved way too fast, faster than the mechanism of Evolution allows, especially within the last 400,000 years.

Worse than that, we're forced to accept that two separate species, Homo Neanderthalis and Homo Sapiens (the forerunner to Homo Sapiens Sapiens) independently evolved with the FOXP2 gene which enables speech and language.

That's not even in the realm of probability and statistics.

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There are legends of civilisations living under the ground where they fled at the time of the flood(perhaps) or maybe at the time of the battle event described in the Indian religious texts.
In all lies and myths there is a kernel of truth, it's just a matter of ferreting out the truth.

Are we to believe Ashurbanipal?

He stated he was taught to read the language that existed before the Deluge.

That implies there really was a Deluge, and at the time it occurred, there was a well-developed civilization that had written language.

Sumerians were aware of the phenomenon of the Precession of the Equinoxes.

You can see that in the fish motif used by Christians (Pisces), and the ram motifs (Aries) and of course the Bull motif (Taurus), and then motifs of the ram and bull engaged in combat (Aries pushing Taurus out of the way), and at Jericho, which was inhabited 9,000 years ago, frescoes painted on the walls of buildings depicting crabs (Cancer) and then The Twins (Gemini).

The Sumerians say the Deluge happened during the Age of Leo, and a pair of sphinx were built with the face of a lion to commemorate it.

That sphinx in Egypt was not built by Egyptians, because it has been there for at least 10,000 years, and the other if not on the west coast of India was on the Saudi Peninsula.

There's lots of evidence.
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